Isn't an Illegal Shift the same thing as a False Start?

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I had a prop tonight in MNF that a False Start would be the first acepted penalty. When the ref called ATL for an illegal shift, I thought I had won. But my book graded it as a loss...
Isd this correct?

 

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Nope an illegal shift is when two or more offensive players move a the same time before snap. WR's, TEs and RBs can move before snap and not be penalized for a false start. sorry

 

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Hmmm.......illegal shift, motion, false start-I swear they are all equal in college, but not sure about NFL.

 

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Okay, thanks PT

 

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I had thought so too T. Guess I now know why they give such a generous +300 line for a False Start ...

 

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The ref does'nt say "illegal shift" to signify false start. The ref also uses a different hand signal for illegal shift. Don't know how you could of thought you won.

 

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Bummer-that sucks.

 

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Chuck Sims said:

The ref does'nt say "illegal shift" to signify false start. The ref also uses a different hand signal for illegal shift. Don't know how you could of thought you won.

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That's what led to my uncertainty about the NFL.....aren't they all illegal motion in college?

(I've never played a prop like this, so never bothered to look)

 

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I think illegal motion in college is when a WR is moving forward towards the line before the snap. I don't think they are the same. I once downloaded the college football rulebook online. I was able to print the whole thing out.

Interesting rule that i was researching at the time was whether a FG attempt was considered good if it went through the uprights but due to heavy wind, blew back out. I believe the rulebook said that the kick is good as soon as it clears the posts, but i could be wrong.

 

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I thought 2 guys moving (period) in college was illegal motion.

(sorry, can't type tonight)

 

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