Has anyone heard about a player from Ilinois who lost 41 consec blackjack hands at an online casino.....???? It sounds hard to believe.....I cannot understand why the offshore industry participtes in these absurd online games when all I seem to hear are horror stories...isn't it giving the offshore industry a "lack of credibility " issue.??????
Well I accept it and play anyway. I mean I am up a good bit online, but NOT EVEN CLOSE to how much I am up in live action.
ANd who would really know if they can maipulate the cards and such. I mean it would be so tempting for the cardrooms to do that and you wouldnt know. I know that some people will say that the poker rooms have too much to lose, but in essence they have nothing to lose since you wouldnt even see it coming.
ANd who would really know if they can maipulate the cards and such. I mean it would be so tempting for the cardrooms to do that and you wouldnt know. I know that some people will say that the poker rooms have too much to lose, but in essence they have nothing to lose since you wouldnt even see it coming.
Illini said:
I hate to use the word "rigged" but there are definitely some "funny" things that happen....The thing about it is...YOU NEVER KNOW....you love to assume it's rigged, but you would really never know....
With online poker the "good" hands for X player seem to come in bunches...I am by no means a 24/7 player, but I've played my share....
I have hit INCREDIBLE bad runs....for instance I have a set on the flop, straight on the flop, flush on the flop, and the other guy CONSTANTLY had a "better" hand....I firmly believe it's to keep each other in the hand to get you to the river....It's obviously hard to explain in a few paragraphs....but when you see it happening it appears very odd....
but the reverse has also happened to me as well.....it just happens more often NOT in your favor....Some people seem to be very naive about it....a person with common sense knows its happening....
I'd love to get a "backdoor" view of the software.....to see how its really setup and the details of it
Having said this, I have decided to cut back DRASTICALLY my online poker play for the next 6 months. I make too much in live tournaments and live NO LIMIT action to waste the time on the net.
I will continue to play the 2am est tournament at betwwts because that it the one that I seem to do the best in lately. I have won it 2 times in the past 14 days each time paying around $2000 for first prize, then I won third place and that paid $700 I think.
But one thing that I have NEVER liked about the cardrooms is this little quirk. I will win alot at times then ask for a payout of lets say $5000 or so. Then for the next week, I will get some of the WORST bad beats in HISTORY to take the rest of my chips. I mean the types of beats where you not only lose the hand, but you were all in as well in live no limit action. This has happened on 3 different sites that I received big payouts. I have heard the same thing from other people as well.
The main reason why others dont talk about this is because only about 5-10% of players at card rooms will ever receive a payout anyway, or at least one that is greater than $1000. But i have talked to other players who took payouts over $5000 and they all seem to notice the same thing. Moral of the story is that if you want a payout after winning $12,600 second prize, request ALL of it in the payout. Then you can reup later if neccessary.
I won the $12,600 second prize in one event and after the tournament had about $14,500 in my pokerstars account. Well I requested a payout of $8000 and then my luck started to change DRAMATICALLY until I only had $1500 left. I took that money and ran but paid an expensive lesson.
There are two other sites when the same thing happened as above although the payouts where not quite as large.
MORAL OF THE STORY= Take the money and run! Dont leave any behind
I will continue to play the 2am est tournament at betwwts because that it the one that I seem to do the best in lately. I have won it 2 times in the past 14 days each time paying around $2000 for first prize, then I won third place and that paid $700 I think.
But one thing that I have NEVER liked about the cardrooms is this little quirk. I will win alot at times then ask for a payout of lets say $5000 or so. Then for the next week, I will get some of the WORST bad beats in HISTORY to take the rest of my chips. I mean the types of beats where you not only lose the hand, but you were all in as well in live no limit action. This has happened on 3 different sites that I received big payouts. I have heard the same thing from other people as well.
The main reason why others dont talk about this is because only about 5-10% of players at card rooms will ever receive a payout anyway, or at least one that is greater than $1000. But i have talked to other players who took payouts over $5000 and they all seem to notice the same thing. Moral of the story is that if you want a payout after winning $12,600 second prize, request ALL of it in the payout. Then you can reup later if neccessary.
I won the $12,600 second prize in one event and after the tournament had about $14,500 in my pokerstars account. Well I requested a payout of $8000 and then my luck started to change DRAMATICALLY until I only had $1500 left. I took that money and ran but paid an expensive lesson.
There are two other sites when the same thing happened as above although the payouts where not quite as large.
MORAL OF THE STORY= Take the money and run! Dont leave any behind
..YEP it happens ALL the time
When you bet on something that is generated by a computer and CONTROLLED by someone else you get what you deserve...period.
Whether you are in "live" games or not. Who is to say they don't have bots playing as live players? Even in the tournies.
Anyone that plays in an actual online "casino" simply set your money on fire. You might win here and there, but they will get you before it is over. Unless you win and NEVER go back again. But usually people get sucked in by winning.
These places do not start casinos to give money away, they do it to win money. Even ifthey are not out and outcheating, any manipulation that raises their winning probabilities is more than enough to break most people. Especailly when they go on tilt, and have that "I can't lose 10 in a row" moment and bet everything they have.
Whether you are in "live" games or not. Who is to say they don't have bots playing as live players? Even in the tournies.
Anyone that plays in an actual online "casino" simply set your money on fire. You might win here and there, but they will get you before it is over. Unless you win and NEVER go back again. But usually people get sucked in by winning.
These places do not start casinos to give money away, they do it to win money. Even ifthey are not out and outcheating, any manipulation that raises their winning probabilities is more than enough to break most people. Especailly when they go on tilt, and have that "I can't lose 10 in a row" moment and bet everything they have.
Ill say it again if your playing any ONLINE casino for more then 1$ a hand your OFF your ROCKER. as Want says above ..Simply set your money on fire because you could be on the ROLL of your life on a winning HIGH within 1.3 MINUTES your at 0....so just set your money on fire at least you will get the heat from it:smoker2:
Roulette can be very streaky. 18 blacks in a row is certainly no record. The longest I have ever heard of is 22 in a row, although longer streaks have probably occurred that I don't know about. It is better to bet with the trend in roulette. Your friend could have ridden that 18 black streak to a nice profit.
While I have seen the programmers admit that online casino software can be set to hold much more than the game minimum of 2.7% (single zero roulette), depending upon the owner's preference, if you stick with a reputable operation like Casino-On-Net, for example, you will get a fair game. I would probably avoid casinos linked to sportsbooks, with the exception of maybe Pinnacle.
Let's face it, all the games are negative expectation. There is no need to rig anything. All they have to do is generate the playing volume and the house edge will do the rest.
Something else to think about. The average sports bettor hits about 50% at 5% - 10% vig. That is a house edge of at least 5%. Single zero roulette has a house edge of 2.7% and there are a few french style wheels available online that use the 'la partage' rule (you get half your bet back if zero hits on even money bets) which cuts the house edge to only 1.35%. So unless you are winning significantly more than 50% on your sports bets, you might as well bet the even chances on the french roulette wheels. Less vig.
While I have seen the programmers admit that online casino software can be set to hold much more than the game minimum of 2.7% (single zero roulette), depending upon the owner's preference, if you stick with a reputable operation like Casino-On-Net, for example, you will get a fair game. I would probably avoid casinos linked to sportsbooks, with the exception of maybe Pinnacle.
Let's face it, all the games are negative expectation. There is no need to rig anything. All they have to do is generate the playing volume and the house edge will do the rest.
Something else to think about. The average sports bettor hits about 50% at 5% - 10% vig. That is a house edge of at least 5%. Single zero roulette has a house edge of 2.7% and there are a few french style wheels available online that use the 'la partage' rule (you get half your bet back if zero hits on even money bets) which cuts the house edge to only 1.35%. So unless you are winning significantly more than 50% on your sports bets, you might as well bet the even chances on the french roulette wheels. Less vig.
