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It would seem to me that for record keeping purposes the monthly printout at Pinnacle of all plays would be more acceptable for the IRS than any personal log a bettor might keep.

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It would seem to me that for record keeping purposes the monthly printout at Pinnacle of all plays would be more acceptable for the IRS than any personal log a bettor might keep.

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Good idea.

I once asked a Sportsbook for a printout and was told that it was "not" possible. From that day on, I started to screen capture all my plays, etc.
 

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I believe they will accept a personal log. Someone correct me if I am mistaken.

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Anyone knows this answer for sure?

Let's say I been doing multi transaction of 5-6 dimes a week through my bank for about 1 year straight. And now IRS wanna audit me. I print out a Pinnacle transaction of all my lost. Do you think I can still get in trouble?

I'm not winning, so I can't pay tax. But isn't wiring money offshore illegal?
 

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Personal log is fine. Amount won/loss, date and where is more than sufficient.

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bigbet 1234...so if i have a log of all my bets..in casino's and offshore...all sports...is this good enough...just wanting to make sure...thanks for the response...jeffksu...oh and one more thing...can you write off loses and gains..even if i have a job that i do pay taxes on..in real life..gambling is just a hobby...thanks again...
 

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Anyone knows this answer for sure?

Let's say I been doing multi transaction of 5-6 dimes a week through my bank for about 1 year straight. And now IRS wanna audit me. I print out a Pinnacle transaction of all my lost. Do you think I can still get in trouble?

I'm not winning, so I can't pay tax. But isn't wiring money offshore illegal?

The legality of internet gambling is quite ambiguous and I wouldn't worry about go down for that. Plus, there is technically a shield law protecting information divulged on tax filings.

However, be careful because you erroneously believe that just because you have a net gambling loss, you do not have to report your gambling activity. Gains (winning wagers) and losses (losing wagers) are required to be reported separately on the tax return. If they are declared properly, even if you have a net loss, they could increase your tax liability because of the impact on Adjusted Gross Income, deductions, exemptions, and credits.
 

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what about leaving it in your neteller account and using the card you can get with them...no back and forth bank transactions...that is pretty safe right?
 

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what about leaving it in your neteller account and using the card you can get with them...no back and forth bank transactions...that is pretty safe right?

It would reduce your chances of being caught, but being able to get away with a crime is not really a good justification for commiting one.
 

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JeffKSU:

For casinos I keep logs of the machine/table number(if possible) dealer name, if i can remember, time I played, what game and what casino. Then the amount won/lost for that session.

For sportsbooks I really dont keep the games logged, I record the amount won or lost on that particular day. If I were to be audited, my records, and bank statements would match.

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I am not to worried about the legality issues as of yet. Where does it say it is illegal to bet offshore. Hell, alcohol causes the world more problems than some one placing a few bets.

The IRS is worried about one thing, and one thing only, that is getting their money. You pay them their cut, and they could care less if you got it pushing drugs.

I have more important things to worry about in life if someone is going to storm my apartment to bust me for placing a few wagers, something I enjoy doing.
 

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Let me add losses can not be carried over from the previous year, and you can only deduct up to the amount won...ie. you win 10K but lose 11K, you can only deduct the 10K, not the 11K

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I understand you must have more detail for sports bets, but never been audited so can't say for sure. I think you have to give more detail such as who you bet and how much and where you bet and the results of each individual bet. For table games you are supposed to have the sort of detail BB mentions, where you played, what limit, and your result.
 

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so when filing your taxes, where do you put your gamling winnings? is it classified as that or just "other income"?

also, what is the amount that triggers the irs to look into your financials...isnt it like 2499? heard a little about this
 

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I doubt there are amounts. The keys are high percentages of deductions. Supposedly the rate of audits on small business owners is sky high. If you take the standard deduction and have a salaried job paying under 100k your chances of getting audited probably are miniscule.
 

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so when filing your taxes, where do you put your gamling winnings? is it classified as that or just "other income"?

You list your "winnings" on Line 21(other income) and list it as "GAMBLING WINNINGS".

You may than proceed to deduct your losses on Schedule A if you so desire.

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Fishhead said:
You list your "winnings" on Line 21(other income) and list it as "GAMBLING WINNINGS".

You may than proceed to deduct your losses on Schedule A if you so desire.

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so if you win $10,000 in bets and lose $8,000 in bets, you just get taxed on $2,000? or still the full 10G
 

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so if you win $10,000 in bets and lose $8,000 in bets, you just get taxed on $2,000? or still the full 10G

You would put the 10,000 on line 21 and deduct the 8,000 on schedule A...........thus you are only taxed on the net result which would be $2,000.
 

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