Off Shore Book Collusion????

Ok i tend to lend an ear to conspiracy theories, especially when i have money involved in the situation. But i dont whole heartedly believe in them so to speak..Case and point, last week i had Toledo-10.5...Toledo down on the Ohio 4 yd line chooses to go for it on 4th down instead of kicking the easy filed goal... Naturally those others who had toledo were screaming the fix and all the bullshit, but to me it made total sense as to why the coach would go for that td and not kick the field goal..I am not looking to open a debate into that game so dont post a damn thing about that shit!!! I made my money back by simply accepting the loss and hammering the shit out of the books saturday!!!!

But here is the reason why i am asking this question...Last week some one made what seemed to be a valid post about Bowman's and the fact that they were profiling him and giving him a different set of numbers than what other gamblers were getting. (A fact apparently admitted by the books manager to this guy)


I had my suspicions about a particular book that i am yet to prove...This morning i log into my book looking for some nice early lines, unfortunately my books release lines at different times and this is can be a problem for a gambler like me who places the same bets in every book for the same amount of money...(unless if one book is offering a better line, i will play that game risking the total amount i would otherwise bet in all my other books )


So here is my problem...I think i managed to find a game where the line could be way off and i log into one of my books to place my bet, on another window i have the line of the game being displayed by one of my other books...Both lines are identical (-10)...So i place my wager at my first book, then some minutes later i log into my second book to place a wager and the line has moved (-10.5 in about 40 secs)


It could be coincidence but this got me to thinking....Is it possible that two offshores can collude and share info on a particular gambler and his habits? I bet favs all the time and have been killing my books just hammering favs (i think i bet favs at a clip of 8-1) and in one of my books, where i think they are totally profiling me, they sold me a totally ridiculous number that looks inflated enormously...(True sharps know what line this is) My book was showing the line up 1.5 points off the average being displayed at most books.. There would be no way in hell sharps had bet that line and moved it 1.5 whole points since last night...


Any way after placing the wager (+23) an hour later i log back into the very same book and the line shot back down to the industry standard....


These two events got the wheels turning in my head...My question isnt about profiling....I know 100% that my book was/is profiling me, i am wondering if you guys ever suspect that two independent offshore books can collude and share information with each other about your plays and gambling habits!!!!!

"two independent offshore books "

what do you mean by independent is the q???.....they all on don best so if 1 moves they all know it within seconds.also although they say independent i know at least in the case of costa rica are not most of them in a sort of "sportsbook mall" ?? i mean how hard is it to scream down the hall "hey my minnesota wiseguy just layed the 6"...or whatever the case maybe.........i wouldnt call it collusion, more like covering their asses...

Unless they were sister books, it was a coincidence.

I agree with Judge Wapner.

while i'm definitely not one for conspiracy theories...and i definitely know far less about the inner-workings of the offshore biz compared to most of you guys...

i wouldn't put ANYTHING past the vast majority of the books out there...

so many of these places will do anything and everything to raise their bottom line....

i think it would make a lot of sense for two books to have an informal agreement to share info regarding who they deem to be their wise guys/sharps/etc. (this is all just based on my assumptions, of course)

i was the guy who posted the complaint about bowmans last week, i was mostly just venting my frustration, sorry...but if a company like that would risk its reputation (in my opinion anyways) who knows what else any of the other books would do?

it's certainly not illegal...unethical, maybe? in my opinion, yes. but even that is open for debate.

i would like it if redpimp would post the names of the 2 books he suspects of doing this....

It was a coincidence..Books rarely like to exchange info on anything, let alone players..

see, that just doesn't make sense to me...

why wouldn't books make informal agreements and compare customer lists and see if they have matching wiseguys/sharps listed in their databases?


how much extra time could this take to do? it seems like a smart tactic for a couple books to do...a way to help each other out and give each other a heads up on where the smart money is going...

what am i missing? i'm not saying that anyone actually is doing it, i have no idea, of course...

i'm just asking, theoretically, why wouldn't this technique work?

we all know damn well that the majority of books out there will stop at nothing to raise their bottom line. why wouldn't this work? just curious.

I don't think this is happening across books - Sharps could just as easily manipulate the line knowing this was happening.

I think it would be rare that books share info about anything. Very competitive.