What an insincere load of crap he's spewing. I would love to see his mug if all of his high rollers stopped gambling because they had too much to drink or if their pet goldfish Nemo died.
I hate it when people piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
I hate it when people piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
WildBill said:
"listen, we all know that casinos love when you lose. i run this casino and my bonus is tied directly to how much you lose so, i love it more than anyone. we also know that people lose more when they drink so, when you come to harrah's, the drinks are on me. just sit down at the blackjack table and by in for $300 or more...mention my name and they will bring over a bottle of scotch on a little red pillow. oh, and, good luck".
-gary loveman
The "legal" industry works responsibly with the idea of serving responsible adults. This much is true. All employees at my company went to 3 hours of training on responsible gaming and none of us will ever serve a customer. Amazing people take shots at a guy for trying to be responsible. Problem is no one ever knows when someone goes too far and its hard in any society to tell someone you don't think they should play because they might have a problem. A bet of $1 for someone with a gambling problem is an issue even if the guy makes millions a year.
I know lots of people are skeptics, but hey it is what it is. The companies have all made efforts to minimize problem gambling, but there just is no way to wipe it out no matter what people try, including making gambling illegal.
I know lots of people are skeptics, but hey it is what it is. The companies have all made efforts to minimize problem gambling, but there just is no way to wipe it out no matter what people try, including making gambling illegal.
Yeah, if he really wanted to impress me, he could not serve alcohol to his customers while they are playing. Then I would believe he really gave a crap about his customers. This guy gets paid on how much money his casino nets via stock options. He wants HET to be about 500 bucks a share and could really give a damn who it ruins to get there.
You guys are just cynics. Being responsible as a gaming company has its merits, trust me on this one. You all have not thought it out wisely and obviously don't work in the industry to know the true ways you drive value. Getting people to blow huge wads of cash in one sitting because of an illness is definitely not on the list. But keep believing all the companies want to just steal your money, keeps you in good company since most people just believe all the false myths such as this one that come with gambling.
GreenDoberman said:
I will accept that, but will point out I did some heavy analysis on it for a Harrah's owned casino some years ago and it isn't some new approach by them by any means. The math was generally proven and then you add in the goodwill and Harrah's is a firm believer in the message. Maybe you will see it more when they take over in December. But I can assure people it isn't lip service or some reactionary program on behalf of Gary Loveman. He and all his key lieutenants are fully on board with the message.
My problem is Gary Loveman telling me not to gamble. Hire an actor or better yet go out and get someone who has recovered from a gambling addiction and know first hand the perils of gambling. Not some millionare CEO who profits when I go into his casino and lose. That guy profits every time a drunk goes in there and blows the nest egg after one of their love ones has died. If enough guys do it, he gets a big raise, and his stock goes through the roof. And then at the very end don't show me all of your casinos under the umbrella in some neon flashy way against a black screen. Fucking write who it was paid for in those tiny microscopic letters that are so common in commericals.
Was referring to all casinos in general, Bill. The ones I have worked in and the ones I have gambled in. There are many,many times no way was I in any condition to play, but I can count only a handful where the situation was taken care of adequately.
I am more referring to the joke and scams such as the TAM classes. Years ago, we took them in a bar where everyone is drinking at like 8 in the morning and the instructor says we can take the test, take pics for your card, and take your money and be out of here in 30 minutes or we can actually take the class for 4 hours. It was a unanimous vote, and I'll leave it up to you to decide which way the class voted.
I am more referring to the joke and scams such as the TAM classes. Years ago, we took them in a bar where everyone is drinking at like 8 in the morning and the instructor says we can take the test, take pics for your card, and take your money and be out of here in 30 minutes or we can actually take the class for 4 hours. It was a unanimous vote, and I'll leave it up to you to decide which way the class voted.
Haha, I remember the TAM class over a decade ago. It sounded like such a scam, one guy creates a class and every food service employee has to go to it. Yep, sounds like someone got rich there.
I can understand the comments about Loveman not being the face of it, but still he speaks for the company. All CEOs are expected to take the lead in these initiatives. Problem with putting faces in front of the public is they may not seem likely either. I know one girl who can't gamble because of problems. This girl could be a Palms girl, hot as can be. She lost 3 different cars to her gambling problem. Seems she would meet a new guy who never imagines good looking women have gambling problems and blow through his money for a bit too. If you put her on TV everyone would say that is just an actor and be insulted. Fact is problem gamblers come from all backgrounds and all walks of life. The people who have the true problems usually don't want anything to do with the company's efforts, they want gambling shut down period. So you go to the man at the top and let him tell the message and accept no matter what you do, people are going to try to take a piss on you anyways.
I can understand the comments about Loveman not being the face of it, but still he speaks for the company. All CEOs are expected to take the lead in these initiatives. Problem with putting faces in front of the public is they may not seem likely either. I know one girl who can't gamble because of problems. This girl could be a Palms girl, hot as can be. She lost 3 different cars to her gambling problem. Seems she would meet a new guy who never imagines good looking women have gambling problems and blow through his money for a bit too. If you put her on TV everyone would say that is just an actor and be insulted. Fact is problem gamblers come from all backgrounds and all walks of life. The people who have the true problems usually don't want anything to do with the company's efforts, they want gambling shut down period. So you go to the man at the top and let him tell the message and accept no matter what you do, people are going to try to take a piss on you anyways.
