MOST Books DISGRACE themselves on MLS Cup action

winkyduck · Nov 13, 2005

ALL BOOKS OUT THERE WHO ONLY OFFER A 3-WAY LINE ON THIS GAME DO US ALL A FAVOR

CLOSE UP SHOP NOW!

You are ALL a 100% DISGRACE to the industry

this game MUST have a winner - CAN'T finish in a tie!

so WHY THE HELL are MOST of you ONLY offering a 3-way line for this game? I want those books ONLY offering a 3-way line on this game to reply to this thread and tell me the LAME ASS EXCUSE they have for doing so. This way ALL OF US here can see how stupid you are for doing this

Those books ONLY offering a 3-way line - GO TO HELL and take your book with you. You are a MINOR LEAGUE sportsbook and the sooner you go out of business the BETTER it will be for us all

There are some books who have a 2-way line and kudos to them - THOSE are the ones we should be supporting and let the pathetic books ONLY offering a 3-way line go out out business - the sooner the better

for the record - the play in this game ON A 2-WAY line is

L.A. Galaxy

trytrytry · Nov 13, 2005

3 way line is regulation plus the first set of OT, no shootout.

there can be a draw. am i missing something here?

-Slim- · Nov 13, 2005

ever heard of booking only 90 minutes of action?

Doug · Nov 13, 2005

I'll agree both lines should be offered instead of 3-way only, but have no problem having the option of playing either, with 3-way being 90 minute only.

I wouldn't use LA as the pick for WW's Bonus Bet, though, give me the higher paying option on Bonus Plays.

winkyduck · Nov 13, 2005

-Slim- said:
ever heard of booking only 90 minutes of action?

100% agree - but WHY!

if the game was ONLY 90 minutes i could see that

but if tied after 90 they will keep playing - so why can't these books offer the option of playing the game based ONLY on the final score

EVERY OTHER sport does it this way - why can't it be done for soccer when someone MUST win the game

if the game could end in a tie - i 100% agree a 3-way line is something to do

BUT THIS GAME CAN'T END IN A TIE!

so the 90-minute 3-way line is BULLSHIT

-Slim- · Nov 13, 2005

its one thing if youre betting on who wins the MLS cup, another who wins the game. the game is only regulation time......

Doug · Nov 13, 2005

Why not judge it by the book's hold ? If it's very high then it's a rip-off !

-Slim- · Nov 13, 2005

what if i wanted to bet that the game ends in a draw after regulation?

winkyduck · Nov 13, 2005

-Slim- said:
its one thing if youre betting on who wins the MLS cup, another who wins the game. the game is only regulation time......

once again - we disagree here

the game is from the opening whistle until 1 team celebrates their victory

if the game is tied after 90 minutes

NO ONE is celebrating - NO ONE!

so why only offer a line when NO ONE will celebrate

you stand by your thoughts - i stand by mine

100% BULLSHIT ONLY OFFERING A 3-WAY LINE ON THIS GAME!

-Slim- · Nov 13, 2005

A 3 way line is right, its based on regulation time.

A 2 way line is right, its based on who wins the cup.

Both are equally legit, nothing bullshit about either one really.

Doug · Nov 13, 2005

Many books don't offer the Asian handicap ( like Pinny does ). Soccer doesn't get much action at some books, is my guess. Many bettors don't understand Asian cap, either.

winkyduck · Nov 13, 2005

-Slim- said:
A 3 way line is right, its based on regulation time.

A 2 way line is right, its based on who wins the cup.

Both are equally legit, nothing bullshit about either one really.

when someone HAS TO WIN THE GAME

a 3-way line IS BULLSHIT

quantumleap · Nov 13, 2005

Please read the rules of your book before making any bets. Most books I know that take action on the 3-way line have an explicit rule (read it) that the bets are only good for regulation (90 minutes) plus stoppage time (for injuries and other stoppages). The 3-way line or any other bet at most books do not include any shootouts or extended time.

Extended time should not be confused with stoppage time. Extended time is usually when there are cup tournaments or other elimination tournaments. This can be up to 30 minutes after regulation+stoppage time.

quantumleap · Nov 13, 2005

winkyduck said:
when someone HAS TO WIN THE GAME

a 3-way line IS BULLSHIT

Oftentimes a 3-way line can be to your advantage when playing on a game that has a shootout or extended time. Some teams settle for the tie toward the end of the game if they feel that they have an advantage in extended time. In this case a bet on the draw (before extended time) can give you a better chance of winning. Take advantage of it.

-Slim- · Nov 13, 2005

a 3 way line has nothing to do with the game, it has alot to do with regulation time.....

go2guy · Nov 13, 2005

Second part of OT, WTF? I knew they would play the whole OT through but why is it in two parts? Phuckin' soccer, I have LA to win after the first half now I have to see NE have an additional 15 minutes to score a goal. Why did they get rid of sudden death?

Christian · Nov 13, 2005

it's done in 2 parts (the OT) so each team gets to be on each side of the field for equal amounts of time....

just in case there's more sun or shade on one side of the field, there's bad pitch (bad grass spots) on parts of the field, etc. etc.

Doug · Nov 13, 2005

So, did I win the Bonus Bet with draw ? I guess so ! I'm not a soccer guy.

Wow, it's graded winner, already.

DrunkenHorseplayer · Nov 13, 2005

I don't see three way betting as being any different than halftime wagering on football; in both cases you're only betting on part of the game.

soccerbob · Nov 13, 2005

winkyduck- I always enjoy reading your posts because you say what's on your mind and you take a stand on an issue or a topic . Unfortunately, you're completely missing the boat on this one. This match was booked just like hundreds of other soccer matches played every week. The line is made and the match is booked on the 90 minute result.

I will be the first one to say that soccer can be a confusing sport to bet on until you pick up on all the different lines that are offered. In this MLS Cup, you could bet on the New England Revolution, the Los Angeles Galaxy or the draw. There are three choices to play but only one can cash. In this case the final score for determining the winner on the three way betting is a 0-0 final. The draw gets paid.

Some books had the New England Revolution Pk and -1/2 +110 and the Los Angeles Galaxy Pk and +1/2 -120. Soccer bettors very often refer to this as the Asian handicap and to further confuse people, it is also known as 1/4 ball because it's between Pick and 1/2. In this spot if you played New England you have a push and a loss and if you played Los Angeles, you have a push and a win.

Although I didn't specifically look for a price to win the MLS Cup, I would think some books offered it and in that case the overtime would matter as it would determine who wins the MLS Cup.