Monday night anything can happen. Philly was unpreparared and so effected by the Owens stuff still 13 pentalties where is the discpline? . Philly looked horrible most of the night but almost covered it as Dallas was miserable as well except for low penalties.
sure,.....as we are in such a buisness wrather than a sport,..u know,....its crazy,...but i just boil it down to,.......got a pretty decent older local bookie,...he's at 3 all day,....the off shores(2 i follow were at 2 1/2 all day),....ok so just imagine how much money the offshores can pull in compared to the local,........yeah it seemed in the bag,.....but low and behold if that 2 1/2 didnt give it away,........well i had philly just because i liked them,.......but totally knew if i was playing smart,....it was on dallas because of are good ol off shores,..........anyhow if you are a fan of the sport,...then by all means im sure all the stats will show how much better philly was and the world will still revolve
Let's not look at tonight and answer that question in the pure form. Yes, you can be on the right side and lose. Tonight has emotions still ringing within it.... But, many times, you can be on the 'right' side...the side you'd bet 10 out of 10 times and lose that once. I really think Philly had that game covered well, but then.... That is what happens. tulsa
yeah kinda confused myself,...but hey,....i just boil the whole entertaing game down to this:....large more commecial off shores= 2 1/2 the small local guy all week at -3 yeah its easy to say,..oh it just luck or well philly played better,..that stuff just happens,...or well my stats just put me on philly/dallas,.....its all good,...i just want to use those stats( im assuming that most people's locals had the same song and dance? -3 ok then,....how many times does it take to get bent over before you start to think,...hmmm,...ok,...im just gonna keep track of the way i think the major money should be and the way the big off shores want me to beleive it is,........kinda just need to sit back a little bit,...forget some of the stats that the media writers and reporters get paid to do,...and just get your money on the other side of the line,...........you will enjoy the outcome much more than following the obvious
DougJ said:
DougJ, here is why I asked.... I am going to share my secret of success (believe me or not) and I am no handicapper. I use other people's plays on various sites including this one to find who will win. Answer this...what if you used other's picks to find the winner and didn't use handicapping in the least? I do. It works. You wouldn't believe what can be found by tracking hundreds (yes hundreds) of people's plays (using the utilities of contest sites...wagerline.com for example.) There is a pattern and it works. Handicapping is done by the line's makers. Why not follow people's 'perception' patterns to find clear winners? Finally, that doesn't mean that you go with the certain people's picks...you might go against them. I won't say this often as I don't want the word out, but I've been drinking and I'm magnanimous tonight. Why do you think I spend the time on Best Bet threads? I don't get paid for it...directly. Go look at the picks in the college hoops section and in my best bets thread now. Read my last post there. You'll see the light if you want too. tulsa
Games like this are what break people. If it was a Sunday game, it would be lost in the shuffl;e of all the other bad beats, but because it is a prime time game, and the only thing going it is dramatically highlighted, especially when all the Eagles players had that money spent.
It is just another game, plainand simple, when you start dwelling you have already lost, that is why so many people cannot win at this, because gameslike this break their spirits, and their mentality. They will now constantly be second guessing themselves, and citing this game (or any of the other dozen or so they dwell on) as the reason.
That is why you don't even watch the game. You bet it, flip around and watch something else, or you go to bed and check the score in the morning. If you even do that. it is just another mile on the highway.
It is just another game, plainand simple, when you start dwelling you have already lost, that is why so many people cannot win at this, because gameslike this break their spirits, and their mentality. They will now constantly be second guessing themselves, and citing this game (or any of the other dozen or so they dwell on) as the reason.
That is why you don't even watch the game. You bet it, flip around and watch something else, or you go to bed and check the score in the morning. If you even do that. it is just another mile on the highway.
DougJ said:
Yes, DougJ, it is... That is why when a line is placed it is placed by mathematicians.. Then the line moves because of the public (not mathematicians) and the line moves because of money and the number of people on a side. You can find the winners in certain situations. You can hit 60% following people (for or against.) tulsa
Santo said:
Yes, but don't worry about those if you can find the 'public' plays and find the patterns that evolve there. There is gold in that hill. I don't care if anyone on here believes me. I am just telling you what I know to be truth. Take it or leave it. I will not be posting this often, but thought I'd share. tulsa
ok poker,....football,...hey it is diffrent?,..yeah??,.....i know there are handicappers who have all the stats for teams and match ups,....on the entire schedule,...they kick butt,...dont doubt that,....but the thing i see over and over again is that,....forget the math on key games,....the media/writers,...get you on one side,...the off shores undercut the smaller loacals,.....it happens time and time again,...i mean hey i was on philly tonight,...bet them small,...and actually just getting a laugh out of this entertaining game,...........in fact told my local older retired bookie,...well the off shores are at 2 1/2 and your at 3 so i am probally on the wrong side,...lol,...now that is funny,....but hey useing that as an example,.......just keep track( if you have a decent local guy) and the off shores,....escpecially on a national,...only game to bet on game),.....i think you will see that somehow, someway,...it appears the buisness end roars its ugly head up,....as it doesnt matter what math skills/stats you have,......when the off shores offer the better value,......more times than not,...you will be donating part of your hard earned paycheck,...never mind any math stats,.....i just ask people keep track of it and see what im saying,.....hope you get some winners or atleast stay off of some of those speed bumps. gl 
Tulsa said:
Nothing wrong with picking games by following an aggregate opinion of yours based on following some and fading others, IMO.
Many ways to go about this exist, Money management being the real key ingredient
I like correlations, but I'm losing my ASS ( in theory) in the tracking forum with my NHL parlays that used to work, I'm using that to track it, anybody fading me is in for a tough ride, my plays are easily predictable, fading theoretical parlays is rough. I bet some of them, but track all of them, I don't care if it comes out 1,000 units down !
