Pinnacle does not want anyone on Montana?

SportSavant · Nov 17, 2005

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+2.5 -121</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap><INPUT class=main_body_blk maxLength=7 size=6 name=M1_0>

+115</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap><INPUT class=main_body_blk maxLength=7 size=6 name=L1_0>

OVER 134 -101 <TD vAlign=center rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>09:15 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>518</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Illinois Chicago</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap><INPUT class=main_body_blk maxLength=7 size=6 name=S2_0>

-2.5 +111 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap><INPUT class=main_body_blk maxLength=7 size=6 name=M2_0>

-125 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap><INPUT class=main_body_blk maxLength=7 size=6 name=L2_0>

UNDER 134 -109</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

michael777 · Nov 17, 2005

i am on montana big,you know what that means.. :hanging:

Doug · Nov 18, 2005

Why is this game so late ?

SamOdom · Nov 18, 2005

Mikey, me too, smart guys should hit chi HARD :toast:

SportSavant · Nov 18, 2005

im loaded up heavy on Montana +130....

my question is how much do I buy back at -125???

GreenDoberman · Nov 18, 2005

Doug,
They are playing in Alaska, they start the games later there for some reason. :103631605

SportSavant · Nov 18, 2005

-122 Now....

I got 5 minutes to decide... let it ride at +130 or buyback!! :sad3:

SportSavant · Nov 18, 2005

Wow -114

-2 +109

Dante · Nov 18, 2005

So how did this turn out???

truthteller · Nov 18, 2005

The Pinny lean has been discussed many times on the forums. From personal experience, follow it and you will get burned.

gak555 · Nov 18, 2005

Truthteller,

What is you take on regularly going against the obvious Pinny lean and grabbing the +money

HinesWard86 · Nov 18, 2005

Dante,

Illinois-Chicago 69
Montana St. 64

Dante · Nov 18, 2005

HinesWard86 said:
Dante,

Illinois-Chicago 69
Montana St. 64

thanks hines....still confused about the PINNY lean thing so when they put PLUS money on one side they are asking you to take it??? saying that is the winner?

just a bit confused on all that would like to learn more

CapnHandi · Nov 18, 2005

When Pinny offers + money on a side (and even more often on a total) they are trying to attract bettors to the + money side. This means they are "leaning" to the other side, the - money.

If you compare Pinny to other books, for this Montana game others were at -2.5 -110.

I don't know what if any clue this has to the actual ATS winner. Anyone tracking that?

Dante · Nov 18, 2005

so Capy...your saying when you see the - money side , if any that is who PINNY thinks will win???

trytrytry · Nov 18, 2005

CapnHandi said:
When Pinny offers + money on a side (and even more often on a total) they are trying to attract bettors to the + money side. This means they are "leaning" to the other side, the - money.

If you compare Pinny to other books, for this Montana game others were at -2.5 -110.

I don't know what if any clue this has to the actual ATS winner. Anyone tracking that?

If they do this in the last 5-6 minutes before tip off its just that they are trying to get some equal action to balance their position and lock in a small profit on the game THEY ARE not taking a position. Be careful of blindly playing a late Pinny lean (see that a ton on half time lines). The right side (ie overlay) is often the +105 if its just before game time time time!! Grab a bunch of those and its like a free 5%.

If they had a lean all day or for a couple hours then you know what to do. find the best number at another sportsbook and play on the pinny lean!!!

Fishhead · Nov 18, 2005

Illinois-CHI was my POD in college baskets yesterday.

Fishhead · Nov 18, 2005

truthteller said:
The Pinny lean has been discussed many times on the forums. From personal experience, follow it and you will get burned.

Why?

Have found the EXACT opposite to be true in the past 3+ years with well OVER 1,000 games as a model.

-FISH-

gak555 · Nov 18, 2005

Fish,

Can you give us an example........still learning.

CapnHandi · Nov 18, 2005

Dante said:
so Capy...your saying when you see the - money side , if any that is who PINNY thinks will win???

I think people try to read too much into the Pinny lines; I don't think they're trying to send a message about who will win. When their line is -130, +120 and BoDog is -110,-110 all Pinny is saying is if you like the favorite go to BoDog, we have all we want on the fav and now we're trying to attract underdog +120 money.

Like the Godfather, Pinny makes their millions a $ at a time (not that they don't occasionally have an opinion). So I think, all Pinny is saying is shop around if you don't like our line.