39 seconds left 2nd qtr. Pitt has 1st and 10 on the 34 yard line, Rothisberger gets sacked -9 yard loss, but ref calls 15 yard face mask penalty. Why wasn't penalty marked off from original line of scrimage. Ref enforced the 15 yards from the spot of the sack 24 yard line. Next ply was 1st and ten from the 39, it should have been 1st & 10 from midfield. Big officiating blunder with 34 seconds remaining. Probably cost steelers a field goal, instead colts intercept a refs make another riduculus call illegal block by a defensive tackler 'lol", how can a DEFENDER THROW AN ILLEGAL BLOCK WHEN HE'S MAKING A TACKLE. All ref's suck dick.
I disagree. The face mask penalty helped the defensive player make the tackle. What happens when a runner is tackled for a loss of five, but an inadvertant face mask is called or even a flagrant face mask is called, the ball is always placed at the original line of scrimage than the face masking penalty is forced. I've never seen a defensive team have a penalty but still reap the benefits of the play.
Automatic first downs always accompany a defensive personal foul, all I'm saying is when a face masking penalty is called on the defense on a negative offensive play, the ball should be placed on the previous line of scrimmage before the penalty is enforced. Defense shouldn't be given the loss of yards when the loss occurred because of a personal foul.
Illini, So what you're saying is ref's don't make mistakes. I know of multiple mistakes ref's have made over the years. I'm probably wrong, but if a quarterback or a running back are running for their lives behind the line of scrimmage and the defense committs a personal face masking foul to end the play, I believe the penalty should be enforced from the previous line of scrimage.
Sure, they make mistakes. But it's very rare that they would make a mistake about the rules. Unless you have proof that they enforced it wrong, I would tend to side with them. I am not a football official, but I used to umpire high level baseball. And to be honest, most of the managers don't even know the obscure rules, only the umpires.zeeman said:
Poker kicked my ass this weekend. I would flop a set and lose to a flush, or I would have AJ and run into AK. One time, I had two pair and lost to someone who was calling the whole way with bottom pair, and he made a set on the river. Stuff that just happens sometimes. Limit poker is a grind. It's profitable, but sometimes you have to withstand losses and keep coming back. I am thinking that NL is probably much more profitable on a per hour average basis, but I have to learn that game before I will play it a lot. But I think it's in my future.TANG said:
Illini,
From what I've been witnessing most of the football coaches don't know rules or strategy. For example, Giants Seattle overtime game. 1st or 2nd and 15 pass complete to Schokey for 20 yards, fumbles ball forward 1 or 2 yards recovered by Giants. Giants should have hustled to Line of scrimmage and spiked ball, before play was reviewed. Downs were of little value at that point, Easy field goal at that point. Coach and quarterback should have been all over it, even Schokey should have known he didn't have possession of ball.
From what I've been witnessing most of the football coaches don't know rules or strategy. For example, Giants Seattle overtime game. 1st or 2nd and 15 pass complete to Schokey for 20 yards, fumbles ball forward 1 or 2 yards recovered by Giants. Giants should have hustled to Line of scrimmage and spiked ball, before play was reviewed. Downs were of little value at that point, Easy field goal at that point. Coach and quarterback should have been all over it, even Schokey should have known he didn't have possession of ball.
