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seems like if you used pinny with a local who only checks odds once a day, you could really hurt him? Has anyone tried this for an extended peorid of time, if so what happened?
 

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Tough to SCALP a local because he's always dealing with -110. You might try to middle him, though.

That being said I have noticed that most times I get what I think is a bad line from my local, he beats me.

Also, what makes you think locals aren't checking line movements online? They won't have Don Best, but they can just go to WSEX or something. If I can buy a computer, he can too.

My man knows what the offshore lines are - he just care because he doesn't move them on air like offshore books do.
 

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My best example would be: Saturday gets lines and leaves for day (golf, kid's functions, bowling league). There is now way he can be or will be by his computer all day. Not when he is getting all his action from squares
 

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Cincy,

Might be a dumb question because I haven't really got into this (scalping). But the only way you could scalp vs Pinny would be to have the same line as him and have +120 juice(maybe a little less). Am I right here or am I missing something? My point is a local probably will have the least sharp lines if you are comparing to all off shore books?
 

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With the drop-down menu at Pinnacle and a few others you definitely can find a few scalps a day, depends on how overinflated your locals #'s are and his limits. :drink:
 

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LEYKIS101 said:
With the drop-down menu at Pinnacle and a few others you definitely can find a few scalps a day, depends on how overinflated your locals #'s are and his limits. :drink:
have you tried this. i know for a fact my locals in cfb are always off pinny's. Seems like cbb would be huge
 

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Yeah, I scalp him vs. Pinnacle all the time. Not sure what other books allow you to sell points like Pinnacle does. If you local stands on a # he's easy pickens.
 

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What is a SHARP LINE? My local had Texas -27 at 11:30 am last weekend when the rest of the world had 28' and 29. Was his line sharper? No - it's just that most people in this area liked A&M.

My local has lines that are "off" all the time, but it's only because he's trying to balance his own action and not moving lines just because Pinny or CRIS moved it like the rest of the offshore industry does. He doesn't have to check Don Best for lines - he knows what his clients are taking and he can simply move lines based on what his clients are playing.

You might be able to scalp him by selling points on Pinny, but selling points when you're not jumping on or off the 3 doesn't really help much and when the game is around 3, his lines are very close to the offshore books. You need a 30 cent swing to go from -110 to +120 and that will take 1 full point when you're around 3 - and maybe 2+ points when you have a line that is 14+.

This year the only bad line (when the spead was near 3) he gave me was in the Indy-NE game. He gave me Indy -3 and I hit it hard. He said he knew the line was higher offshore, but he didn't care because he needed people to take Indy to balance his action - being in New England everyone was taking the Pats. He could pass off action if he is overloaded on one side, but that doesn't net him any profit so he would much rather just balance the action he has.
 

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Yeah, your success will be determined by how much your local sets his lines and if he moves them throughout the day. Many won't be able to find many scalps due to their local having updated lines.
 

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Not sure if I should have used the word sharp line. What i meant your local should have the line that is furthest away from the majority in the "industry". Correct?( due to not adjusting quick enough or not being by a computer 24/7) Most lines off shore are all the same. Not talking NFL. But wouldn't you get a ton of off lines Saturday in cbb or cfb if your local didn't check his lines after 11 am and went out for day? How far off points wise would a college hoops game have to be off from pinny to catch one? The only way this work is if you got +115 and up juice from a pinny drop down, correct?
 

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Not sure if I should have used the word sharp line. What i meant your local should have the line that is furthest away from the majority in the "industry". Correct?( due to not adjusting quick enough or not being by a computer 24/7) Most lines off shore are all the same. Not talking NFL. But wouldn't you get a ton of off lines Saturday in cbb or cfb if your local didn't check his lines after 11 am and went out for day? How far off points wise would a college hoops game have to be off from pinny to catch one? The only way this work is if you got +115 and up juice from a pinny drop down, correct?

You don't get it, do you?

Do you think my man is going to take $500,000 in action on Sunday but he's not going to be in his office? Do you really think he will be out golfing with his buddies?

I will explain one more time:

My man doesn't care what line Pinny is putting up. He has his own line and he will move HIS line according to the plays that he has coming in. Pinny could move their lines one way, and he will move it the other way if he needs to. It has nothing to do with being away from the computer.

Also, you can't sell points on CBB at Pinny, so you can't scalp. The best you can do is middle - and good luck middling CBB.

(My last post on this matter)
 

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In most cases you are better off middling then selling the points at pinnacle.

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Yeah, I scalp him vs. Pinnacle all the time. Not sure what other books allow you to sell points like Pinnacle does. If you local stands on a # he's easy pickens.
 

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I'm talking about MY LOCAL. I have since the beginning. He is away from his computer (and yes he takes a ton of action) all the time. You don't think a 15-3 streak scalping against a local for 1k isn't going to hurt him. Some locals may not be able to get rid of all that esp in cbb. That is my point is his LINES are the most off and isn't that what you are looking for. if you don't want to answer than stay out of the thread. This is a gambling forum.
 

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Oh - YOUR local? I never met him, so I wouldn't know. A local who golfs with his buddies on Saturday? I hope you get paid.

I will do you a favor and stay out of ALL your threads from now on.
 

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In most cases you are better off middling then selling the points at pinnacle.

Yes, I do both frequently depending on the #'s Im offered. Mine doesn't take college hoops, so that limits me in there, but plenty of football numbers to middle or scalp.

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Are you insane? Middling college basketball is terrific.


Are you talking about middling because of large line movements? Well, that means you need to take a position and wait. This guy is talking about middling an "off number" from his local with Pinny. That isn't going to be a 3 or a 4 point middle.
 

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That was always my point. Local lines are usually the FURTHEST OFF due to adjustng them because of less volume and less commitment from local and just wanting balanced action (you said so yourself). My LOCALS have all paid for over 10 years because hardly anyone I know ever beats them. What's up with the attitude? I was just asking a question and trying to see if it can be done. Just not sure I agreed with you on my example (not yours). Sorry didn't mean to ruin your day.
 

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