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The Angels have intensified talks with the Red Sox for a trade that would bring Manny Ramirez to Anaheim. After Konerko signed a five-year, $60 million deal to return to the White Sox yesterday, there were strong indications from Yawkey Way that the Red Sox were focusing on what package of players to seek from the prospect-rich Angels in return for Ramirez. The Angels are believed to be the No. 1 choice for Ramirez, although the Mariners and Mets meet his approval as well. The Angels, meanwhile, have plenty of reasons to pursue Ramirez. Providing protection for Vladimir Guerrero in the heart of the lineup is why the Angels were in search of a big bat. The Angels will have to give up a fair amount of talent to obtain Ramirez. Right-hander Ervin Santana is on the Red Sox’ wish list, but earlier this offseason they were told he is not available. Other players of potential interest to the Red Sox are first baseman Casey Kotchman, switch-hitting Kendry Morales, who can play first and the outfield, and second baseman Howie Kendrick.


The Mets are moving toward dealing starter Kris Benson to the Orioles for reliever Jorge Julio, sources have told The Post. It is a trade that makes sense for both teams and could be consummated at the winter meetings, which begin next week in Dallas. With the improvement of Aaron Heilman, the Mets have a surplus of starting pitchers and have been looking to deal Benson. Omar Minaya is reshaping the Mets, and Benson is not a pitcher Minaya acquired. "It's not done yet but it could be finalized at the meetings," a source said last night. A second source confirmed the two sides are in "concrete" talks to finalize the trade. The Orioles need pitching, especially a veteran starter, and Benson, who turned 31 on Nov. 7, fits the bill.


The next several days could be critical as the Cardinals decide whether to break from an organizational philosophy and continue pursuit of the free agent market's premier starting pitcher. The agent for A.J. Burnett said talks with teams about his client have sped along "on several fronts" in the past two days, and that the Cardinals remain firmly in the hunt for the righthanded pitcher. "We're furthering discussions," Darek Braunecker said. "Things have certainly become more focused with several (teams) in the last few days. We're moving forward with many clubs. The Cardinals are still in this thing, but I wouldn't want to imply or comment on the level of their (interest). That's the prerogative of the club." Braunecker, a Little Rock, Ark.-based agent, went on to call it a sensitive and delicate time in the negotiations with several teams. He has received multiple offers for his client - each of them for the five-year terms Burnett is pursuing. The Cardinals are not believed to have tabled an offer. The length of contract Burnett is seeking is clear, and various reports have pegged the price at $50 million over those five years. Though Toronto was reported to have offered that exact deal - five years, $50 million


The end game in the Rafael Furcal derby is near, but it wasn’t at hand Wednesday. The Cubs feel good about their offer, which is for five years and about $50 million. There probably is wiggle room with the dollars, but not with the years. That’s important because the Cubs will no doubt offer more money for the free-agent shortstop than will the Braves, for whom Furcal has starred since 2000. Furcal’s people met late Tuesday with the Los Angeles Dodgers. Even if the Dodgers aren’t as hot for Furcal as are the Cubs and the Braves, they represent an opportunity for Furcal to possibly drive up the bidding. Paul Kinzer, the agent for Furcal, said late Tuesday that money wouldn’t be the sole determining factor in where his client ends up. He cited “the city, how he would fit in and the team.”


MLB privately regards Las Vegas and Portland as the most likely options for relocation if the Marlins move. Samson said he didn't know if he would meet with officials from Las Vegas or elsewhere before the end of the year, and he declined to estimate the likelihood of the Marlins leaving South Florida. ''We're in the process of exploring,'' he said. ``And that process takes time.'' Samson intends to visit the cities that are deemed realistic options. He said he doesn't know if owner Jeffrey Loria will accompany him.


Looking to improve at catcher, the Diamondbacks this week made contact with the representative for free agent Brad Ausmus. A two-time Gold Glove winner, Ausmus, who spent the past five seasons in Houston, has long been regarded as one of the best defensive catchers in baseball. "The Diamondbacks have expressed interest in Brad," said Peter Mrowka, Ausmus' agent. "We had a lengthy conversation and planned to talk again soon."

Now, the Orioles are left looking at other options at first base, including Chicago Cubs free-agent infielder Nomar Garciaparra. There are several people in the Orioles' organization that feel that Garciaparra, a shortstop who has played a little third base, could make a successful transition across the diamond. The Orioles have had almost daily talks with Garciaparra's agent, Arn Tellem, though no deal appears imminent. With few other high-impact first base options available, the club also has discussed former Oriole Jeff Conine, Boston's Kevin Millar and Oakland's Scott Hatteberg, but like Garciaparra, all three free agents are not considered everyday first basemen.





Washington Nationals President Tony Tavares said yesterday that he would like to resolve the status of Manager Frank Robinson before the start of next week's winter meetings, and two club sources indicated it's becoming increasingly likely Robinson will return for a fifth season with the franchise. "We've got some decisions to make," Tavares said, "and we'd like to get them done as expeditiously as possible." Tavares would not say whether Robinson will be back, but a high-ranking club source with knowledge of the situation, speaking on the condition of anonymity because final determinations haven't been made, said Robinson is likely to be asked back but he will have to make major changes to his coaching staff if he wants to return.


At next week's winter meetings, Mariners officials will attach a prohibition to any and all trade discussions: Ichiro Suzuki, Felix Hernandez and Yuniesky Betancourt are off-limits. Sources inside and outside the organization have confirmed that the three players are unobtainable. An official of one club who inquired about Ichiro's availability has the impression that the superstar is not available "under any circumstances."


It's no secret the Phillies have made rightfielder Bobby Abreu available in trade talks - they offered Abreu to Toronto for Vernon Wells at the GM meetings last month - but they haven't talked to the San Francisco Giants about him, or a rumored Jason Schmidt-for-Abreu swap. The two teams have not talked recently.


Paul Konerko's decision will send Angels Bill Stoneman back to the trade market, where he is expected to explore deals for Boston slugger Manny Ramirez, Kansas City first baseman Mike Sweeney, Texas second baseman Alfonso Soriano and possibly Arizona third baseman Troy Glaus or Seattle third baseman Adrian Beltre. The Angels might also look into free-agent infielder Nomar Garciaparra or free-agent catcher Mike Piazza. "We'll explore other things and look to improve the offense and the pitching," Stoneman said. "We'll keep moving forward."


The Rays continue to field calls from about a dozen teams with interest in speedy outfielder Joey Gathright, with the Dodgers and Marlins (who are loaded with prospects and likely to dump Juan Pierre) thought to be among the most aggressive. And the pursuit of closer Danys Baez is expected to increase heading into next week's winter meetings in Dallas as the free-agent market for relievers continues to soar. The Phillies are likely to be among at least a half-dozen teams making offers.


The Phillies have set their sights on a player the Mets have coveted: Manny Ramirez. Philadelphia and Boston have engaged in serious talks about swapping Ramirez for Bobby Abreu, The Post has learned. Abreu was shopped by new Philly GM Pat Gillick during the GM meetings in early November. Ramirez's unhappiness in Boston has been evident for months, if not years, and culminated with his apartment in the Residence at the Ritz-Carlton going on the market Tuesday for $6.9 million. If the Phillies land Ramirez, it would be a huge counterblow to the Mets. The Phillies believe a Ramirez deal could get done if they want. Apparently, the stumbling block is the disparity in salaries.


Latest reports suggest Rafael Furcal is likely to leave the Braves for the Cubs, which could make Atlanta the top suitor for Julio Lugo, who is turning out to be one of the Rays' hottest commodities. The Rays likely would have interest in catcher Brian McCann or third-base prospect Andy Marte, as well as infielder Wilson Betemit or pitching prospects. If Furcal goes to the Cubs or back to the Braves, the Dodgers are also expected to have serious interest in Lugo, who has a one-year, $4.95-million contract. From the Dodgers' deep farm system, the Rays likely would be interested in catcher Russ Martin, third baseman Andy LaRoche or pitcher Chad Billingsley.


White Sox general manager Ken Williams called Frank Thomas a Hall of Famer and a prince Wednesday but failed to announce the free-agent slugger's inevitable departure after leaving him a voice mail. "I think it's disrespectful to inform the public of my feelings before having a conversation with him," Williams said on a conference call to announce the re-signing of Paul Konerko. Williams would say only that the healing in Thomas' left foot was "progressing," but it's apparent the Sox won't offer salary arbitration to the most storied slugger in club history because of severe foot and ankle problems.
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According to a well-placed major-league source, nothing serious is brewing between the Mariners and Nationals regarding outfielder Brad Wilkerson, despite Internet rumors of trade talks. Colorado outfielder Larry Bigbie is a possibility in a deal for suddenly expendable catcher Yorvit Torrealba, but the Mariners are said to prefer dealing Torrealba for pitching.


The agent for free agent Matt Morris said he has the impression that the Cardinals' interest in his client - who has never pitched outside of the Cardinals organization - is dependent on other pursuits. Texas has invited Morris, who won his 100th game as a Cardinal this past season, to visit Arlington and the Rangers' ballpark, but agent Barry Axelrod said the righthander will not make any visits. Texas has made a formal two-year offer to Morris, one of two offers Morris has received. San Francisco is also wooing Morris and expectations are that the Los Angeles Dodgers will be more involved now that their front office is more set.


The Baltimore Orioles, who lost closer B.J. Ryan to the Toronto Blue Jays, and Detroit Tigers also are in the mix with the Phillies for Tom Gordon. Ryan Madson is one possibility for the set-up role should Phillies general manager Pat Gillick shore up the rotation through a trade.


The Sox also are seeking a left-handed-hitting infielder who can spell Joe Crede at third. The Sox had interest last spring in Arizona switch-hitter Alex Cintron, who could be available.

In an interview with 790 The Ticket's Joe Rose, Miami city manager Joe Arriola blasted Samson, saying, ``As long as we have a little boy doing a man's job, the stadium is not going to happen in this city.'' Marlins president David Samson, in a subsequent interview with The Herald, said, ``It is very sad to me that an appointed city official finds it necessary to continue to comment on my physical attributes.''



The Nationals are fighting to keep right-hander Hector Carrasco. A baseball source said Carrasco is close to signing with a West Coast team. An invaluable reliever who filled in as a starter at the end of the season, Carrasco, 36, went 5-4 with a 2.04 ERA.


Marlins President David Samson last week detailed why there would be no stadium deal with the City of Miami. Wednesday, City Manager Joe Arriola offered a biting perspective that spoke to the ideological and personal gulf between the two sides. Back from vacation, Arriola blasted Samson for "absolutely lying to the public" about the Marlins' contribution to the project. He also termed Samson and owner Jeffrey Loria "carpetbaggers," adding that the negotiation would have gone more smoothly with a local ownership group. Among the several issues on which Arriola and Samson are at odds is how much money the team would provide to the project. Samson last week said the Marlins were prepared to make a $212 million contribution to a planned baseball-only facility adjacent to the Orange Bowl. That figure includes annual rent, but Arriola's focus is on upfront payments. "I don't care how David wants to dress this," Arriola said. "It's an absolute, outright lie. He's putting $30 million in the deal, end of story. ... If I have an apartment building and you come to rent from me, what is that? Is that a contribution to my profit, a contribution to my mortgage? Nothing. What I do with the money is beside the point."


Seattle has an interest in Carl Pavano but has been told the Yankees aren't planning to move the right-hander, who has three years and $30 million remaining on his contract and is coming off a shoulder problem that limited him to 17 games this past season. Pavano recently talked to Cashman and was asked by the GM if he was unhappy in New York. Pavano told Cashman he wasn't.


District Mayor Anthony Williams yesterday responded to a stern warning from Major League Baseball officials regarding the timeline for the new ballpark for the Washington Nationals, saying he was confident the city would agree to a lease and financing for the stadium by the end of the year. Williams, who was scolded Tuesday in a letter by MLB president Bob DuPuy for failing to meet certain benchmarks for the stadium project, referred to the warning as "public posturing." "We're in a negotiation, and Major League Baseball has their people, their Politburo ... that are the hard-liners," Williams said. "[MLB] is basically telling us we gotta get this thing done, it's taking too long. And it's like, hello? Yeah, we know this. And we're going to get it done."


Reports out of St. Louis suggest the Mets are the leaders for free-agent infielder Mark Grudzielanek. He would compete with Kaz Matsui for the second-base job or to fill the super-sub role held by Miguel Cairo, whom the Mets will not bring back.


Losing out on Brian Giles could prompt the Dodgers to retain troubled center fielder Milton Bradley, who made $2.5 million last year and is eligible for arbitration. The Oakland Athletics and Chicago Cubs are among teams that have shown interest in trading for him.

The Angels, according to a source, have increased their offer to free-agent pitcher Paul Byrd to two years and about $11 million, and the right-hander, who has two-year offers from the Orioles, Rangers and Cleveland, could make a decision this week. "Paul truly wants to return to the Angels," agent Bo McKinnis said.

The Mariners are still in the mix for former Twins outfielder Jacque Jones, who seems to be waiting for Giles to sign before entering serious negotiations. The Cardinals, Padres and Royals are likely top contenders. Johnny Damon's reported request for a seven-year contract almost certainly eliminates Seattle. The other prominent left-handed bat on the free-agent market is 36-year-old Jeromy Burnitz, who hit 24 homers for the Cubs last year.



Sources indicate the Mariners are still involved at some level with most of the free-agent pitchers on the market. The agent for Matt Morris said that Bill Bavasi called this week to profess his continued interest in the former Cardinals right-hander, while A.J. Burnett's agent said Wednesday "there's still a strong level of mutual interest" between the M's and the ex-Marlins right-hander.


Rangers general manager Jon Daniels confirmed Wednesday that the club has made a formal offer to free-agent right-handed reliever Octavio Dotel. Dotel's representative, Don Horwits, said his client is looking for a one-year, incentive-laden contract that would allow him to prove he can pitch after coming off Tommy John surgery.


Through the first four years of Alex Rodriguez's record baseball contract, he has been paid $16,493 per inning; $37,146 per at-bat; $142,145 per game; and $450,000 per home run (rounding to the nearest dollar).


Juan Pierre. He's exceptional. He's available. He's exactly what the Braves need to push their streak of consecutive division titles to 15. Not only that, he's capable of doing enough with his bat, glove, legs and heart to end their annoying habit of vanishing each October.


"This is the deal I told the Padres I would accept a while back," Brian Giles said of his $30 million guarantee. "I think the Padres knew I was going to sign with the Dodgers, and that changed their minds." Giles wouldn't discuss the Dodgers' offer, but he said he turned down offers of "between $10.5 million and $11.5 million a year for three years" to remain with the Padres.
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Rox, just got back from Padres season ticket holder party. Was a nice event. All the free concessions you wanted (pizza, dogs, soda, candy, cookies, etc...). Ted Leitner hosted. Sandy Alderson, Towers, and Bochy all spoke as did Geoff Blum.

They kept things pretty vanilla, but it was clear that Hoffman is in their plans and I will be shocked if he's not back.
The one scoop they gave out is they have an offer out to Brad Ausmus. They said if Clemens comes back, Ausmus will likely stay an Astro, but if not, since he lives here, he will come back here. Not exactly exciting, as Ausmus' best ball is behind him.
They also have offers out to Seanez and Hammond and want the entire bullpen back from last yr
Alderson also said they are moving the fences in 10 feet in the death valley between right center and center (otherwise Giles wouldn't have come back).

They plan to be active at the winter meetings, and they said there will be many more major changes in the next 4-6 weeks. Expect some trades.
Payroll will be about $70 mil. White Sox won it with a $74 payroll

World Baseball Classic is at Petco and is going to be awesome. Lots of star power. Peavy will be on the U.S. staff.
 

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thats good stuff whormoan.moving the fences in should have happened last year. what stupid planning. that park was built for players who moved on while being built.cammy,finley,tony...hoffman BETTER be back. hes going to get mad money thrown his way! hey we need a charger/raider thread working! the gangmembers will be rolling in and i think san diego county will supply the corrections busses and king stahlman will greet the raidernation with thier bond.maybe dog the bounty hunter can have a field day.:lolBIG:
 

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thats good stuff whormoan.moving the fences in should have happened last year. what stupid planning. that park was built for players who moved on while being built.cammy,finley,tony...hoffman BETTER be back. hes going to get mad money thrown his way! hey we need a charger/raider thread working! the gangmembers will be rolling in and i think san diego county will supply the corrections busses and king stahlman will greet the raidernation with thier bond.maybe dog the bounty hunter can have a field day.:lolBIG:

Rox, will you be out there? Bolts should have no trouble, although I think the line is a tad high (for the record, I would take Oak +). King Stahlman and Pacifc Law Firm will enjoy the weekend for sure. Raiders will have nothing to cheer about so will just try and brawl.
 

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whormoan said:
Rox, will you be out there? Bolts should have no trouble, although I think the line is a tad high (for the record, I would take Oak +). King Stahlman and Pacifc Law Firm will enjoy the weekend for sure. Raiders will have nothing to cheer about so will just try and brawl.
i really want to go. ive been asked out to go.but ive been to 3 charger/raider games and every damn time i get really pissed at those people cuz they throw mustard and other things at everyone wearing chargers gear. the worse they are losing the badder they get.so i think i will hit the clubs in the gaslamp fri/sat and chill on sunday night from home. will you be going? what part of town are you in? quantumleap is staying in del mar right now.small world huh?:103631605
 

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rox, thanks for posting these threads...i appreciate you effort to supply us with off season deals!! hope the phillies get manny!!! but if he didnt like the fans in boston, he may not like us either...lol.
 

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RoxyGurl said:
i really want to go. ive been asked out to go.but ive been to 3 charger/raider games and every damn time i get really pissed at those people cuz they throw mustard and other things at everyone wearing chargers gear. the worse they are losing the badder they get.so i think i will hit the clubs in the gaslamp fri/sat and chill on sunday night from home. will you be going? what part of town are you in? quantumleap is staying in del mar right now.small world huh?:103631605

I'm near UTC Rox. I will be there Sun night in my season tix. Forgot to mention Pads are very close to trading for Wells and Towers and Alderson made it no secret that he is on the short list.
 

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