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Im sure Millen was behind the fan being removed

Anti-Millen signs rev up the crowd

BY SHAWN WINDSOR
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December 5, 2005

<!-- factboxes, main image --><!-- story text --><!-- story text -->Aaron Tobin spent a few minutes on his home computer in Roseville and changed the atmosphere at Ford Field.

Tobin's two-word plea put a charge into a frustrated crowd Sunday afternoon, led to a cat-and-mouse chase between security guards and dozens of fans, and ended with a tackle in the stands. It was the latest sign of just how much that Lions fans want to strangle their favorite football team.

"All I did was make two signs on a computer printout," Tobin said. "They were maybe three feet long. There was nothing obscene about it."

The offending scrawl?

"Fire Millen!"

Matt Millen is the Lions' president and CEO. The team is 4-8 this season (after Sunday's 21-16 loss to Minnesota), 20-56 since Millen was hired almost five years ago.

When Tobin, 44, got to the downtown stadium, he gave one sign to a friend and held the other one for the entire first half. Nothing happened.

But in the third quarter, after a dismal half by the Lions, the crowd began reacting to the sign, chanting "FIRE MIL-LEN." Security guards closed in on Tobin, a lifelong Lions fan sitting in the lower level not far from midfield, and told him to give up the sign or face ejection.

He passed it to another fan. Tobin said security told him he was lucky he wasn't kicked out on the spot. The guards then took off for the fan who had the sign.

But that fan passed it again. And another passed again. And each time security got close, the sign was tossed to another fan. This chase continued for several minutes before it was finally confiscated.

"We are very consistent about this," said Lions executive vice president Tom Lewand. "We don't allow signs and banners in the building."

Lewand said the cost of obstructing views and fan safety was greater than any enjoyment fans might have in holding a sign or getting on television.

"It has nothing to do with the message," he said.

Few signs are seen at Lions games. Fans must undergo a pat-down from security before entering the stadium. However, Lewand said more signs get past the checkpoints late in the season as colder weather leads fans to wear bulkier coats.

Lewand said that although security was trained to look for signs, he was more concerned about keeping alcohol and weapons out of the stadium.

After Tobin's sign was taken -- he said his other sign was gone by halftime -- fans around him pulled out markers and wrote "Fire Millen" on whatever they could find, including brown grocery bags and little pizza boxes.

Some fans in other sections started doing the same thing. In an end zone, a fan took his "We Want Wayne Fontes" sign and scribbled "Fire Millen" on the back. Soon after, security came to remove the sign.

Another "Fire Millen" sign in the vicinity of Tobin was passed around again. And the biggest chase of the day began.

This time, a fan grabbed it and started running through the seats, from section to section. The crowd grew louder as he worked his way around the lower bowl. The Fox TV cameras caught it. Even players began to notice.

Finally, as the unidentified fan got near the main stadium entrance, security caught, tackled and ejected him.

Many fans enjoyed the spectacle, even though many were irked by what they considered an infringement on obscene-free freedom of speech.

Some fans thought security's actions only served to further rile up the crowd. Others, perhaps thinking back to the rowdy fan behavior at the Silverdome, thought security's actions were necessary.

"A couple of fans get irate, the rest get going," said Brandon Alexander of Chesterfield Township, seated not far from Tobin's section.

Lewand said security did the right thing.

"I give a lot of credit to our event staff," he said. "What you condone, you endorse."

Lewand said he would review the dashing-fan incident today, and a decision would be made whether that fan would be admitted to future games. The Lions' final home game is Dec. 18 against Cincinnati.

"I understand the frustration and emotion of the fans," he said.

Tobin wasn't so sure.

"I've never seen the fans more charged," he said.

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An unidentified Detroit Lions fan holds a "Fire Millen" sign in the stands while eluding security, during the second half of the Lions' game against the Minnesota Vikings on Sunday, Dec. 4, 2005, in Detroit. (AP Photo/Paul Sancya)
 

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Also the Lions have shut down their fan forum on the team website here is what it saids there.




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</TD></TR><TR><TD>The Detroilions.com Message Boards have been suspended until further notice. Posts consisting of profane and unacceptable language and references were increasing in frequency. In addition to these types of posts, fraudulent posts by individuals announcing that they were someone representing the Detroit Lions organization were also frequently occurring.


Due to the increasing amount of resources required to monitor this situation and because of the possibility of young Lions’ fans being exposed to such posts, it was in the best interest of Detroitlions.com and the Detroit Lions to discontinue offering the Message Boards on the team’s Internet site at this time.

Message boards are intended to provide a forum to our fans to discuss the many issues surrounding the Detroit Lions and the National Football League. Once individuals use the message boards for such purposes other than to communicate appropriately with other fans about the Lions or the NFL, then the intended values of this forum is no longer valuable to Lions’ fans or to the organization. We appreciate the many fans over the past few years who have been regular visitors and provided posts with great insight, opinions and thoughts about the Lions, and those who have done this appropriately. We hope to be able to resume the message boards in the future. Thank you


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http://forums.detroitlions.com/boards/down.cfm
 

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They need to stop being pussies and take it like a man. Not the fans fault that they are sucking it up. Millen should have been long gone but for some reason he's survived while other get the blame casted on them. they should wear T-shirts next time so they can't blame signs being held up is a security risk! :103631605
 

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that's hilarious they shut down the message boards!
 

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viking611 said:
that's hilarious they shut down the message boards!

That is funny bet they had alot of the same topic threads title

Fire Matt Millen:finger:
 

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Now that you have seen what the sign-Nazis do with fans and message boards, does anyone think that the Ford family is locked up somewhere too? Is that the reason Millen still has a job?

That guy called Millen looks an awful lot like Saddam, to be honest.
 

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20-56 since Millen took over...can someone please explain to me why he is still there? That makes no sense to me.
 

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i just tried typing the website firemillen.com and nothing came up. i am dissapointed about this. i can not believe no one has put up the site yet.
 

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Seems to me, for what a ticket costs these days, fans should be able to say almost whatever they want.
 

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Judge Wapner said:
Seems to me, for what a ticket costs these days, fans should be able to say almost whatever they want.

If we are basing it on how much fans have to pay these days, we should not only be able to say whatever we want...we should get to make trades!

:lolBIG:
 

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The Lions just need to draft another WR with their #1 pick and they'll be fine. :103631605
 

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let's give matt millen some more time. There are still a few WR's he HASN'T drafted yet.
 

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bullring said:
let's give matt millen some more time. There are still a few WR's he HASN'T drafted yet.

This would be matt lineart worst nightmare if drafted by the lions
 

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bullring said:
how with 4 wins can they do that.
They could go 4-12 and alot of the teams worse then 4-8 at this time are not looking for a QB so slight chance could happen.
 

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Clip Joint said:
20-56 since Millen took over...can someone please explain to me why he is still there? That makes no sense to me.

whats Elgins record in his tenure?

sorry had to take my shot
 

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Security guards closed in on Tobin, a lifelong Lions fan sitting in the lower level not far from midfield, and told him to give up the sign or face ejection.

That's an unadequate reaction. This happens virtually once per year for half the soccer teams in the wolrd and nobody goes chasing signs around.

PS: If they did, they'd face outright riot in the stands anyway.
 

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Tesco Vee said:
whats Elgins record in his tenure?

sorry had to take my shot

:lolBIG:

You know I hate that guy...

BUT, look at their transactions the last 3-5 years and they are right up there with the BEST in the NBA as far as trades and who they have let walk. I can't remember the last bad move (other than the draft pick this year) in the last few years.

They are actually doing an incredible job lately.
 

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"Some fans in other sections started doing the same thing. In an end zone, a fan took his "We Want Wayne Fontes" sign and scribbled "Fire Millen" on the back. Soon after, security came to remove the sign."

:lolBIG:

After Tobin's sign was taken -- he said his other sign was gone by halftime -- fans around him pulled out markers and wrote "Fire Millen" on whatever they could find, including brown grocery bags and little pizza boxes.
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Next game all the fans should chant "Millen must go" and see how security reacts
 

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