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I had the max wager on:

"The longest fg of the game will be under 42.5 yards."

That is the EXACT wording of the prop.

The prop did not say "The longest MADE fg will be under 42.5 yards."

In the Seattle game, a fg was ATTEMPED but missed. That means the result is ZERO yards, and under players should have been paid given the wording of Nine's prop.

Instead, nine graded it as a push. I spent 10 minutes with their prop manager, Mike, who was a gentlemen but did not budge in my request to regrade it. He insisted the prop meant to say MADE fg. I told him THAT MADE NO SENSE BECAUSE 1) the prop did not specify a FG had to be MADE, and 2) once a FG was attempted, the prop became "live action" because at that point, it was possible for one side to win and one side to lose. It was Mike's position that "this is the way they always have graded it." I said fine, if that was the case, they should have specified the FG had to be MADE in the body of the prop language.

IF NO FGS WERE ATTEMPTED, THEN I AGREE 100% THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NO ACTION. IN THIS CASE, I BELIEVE NINE IS LOOKING FOR A WAY TO AVOID PAYING OUT THIS PROP. THEY HAD SUBSTANTIAL ACTION ON THE UNDER, AND MIKE ADMITTED NOBODY WAS ON THE OVER DUE TO THE WEATHER.

I heard 5 dimes had the exact same wording of Nine's prop and paid out, so kudos to 5 dimes.
 

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That's a tough one, with the wording, I see your point.

It didn't say 'attempted' either...did you confirm 5 Dimes had the exact same wording, with same or similar odds? and if so, did you mention that?
 
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PP, I'll email them about this thread. I'm not a big prop player & kind of got bored drunk by that sad excuse of a MNF game, so I'm going to have to read your post again to comprehend it.
 

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longest FG in the game under is what you played...

there was no zero yard FG, there was just as many 0 yard FG's as 65 yeard FG's for that matter.

there was no made FG that is a push!
 

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Journeyman said:
That's a tough one, with the wording, I see your point.

It didn't say 'attempted' either...did you confirm 5 Dimes had the exact same wording, with same or similar odds? and if so, did you mention that?


J Man, the fact 5 dimes paid out was mentioned in another thread

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=327944

Maybe someone who won that prop can confirm the exact language. Obviously, 5 dimes did not specify MADE fg, though, otherwise they would not have paid.
 

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5 dimes = Will there be a fg made over 43.5 yards? they paid on the "no", as they should...


Most all other books = push
sia, jamaica, etc...they all have the same interpretation as Nine...
 

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I am suprised they didnt have a note with the following:

If no FG(s) is/are attempted, prop will be graded NO ACTION.

and/or

If the entire game does not have successful FG(s), prop will be graded NO ACTION.

Since nothing was mentioned, and a FG was attempted, but not successful, it seems logical that Petes UNDER wager is a WINNER.

It is very suprising the FG prop wager is not clearly defined.
 

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OK, thanks for clarifying. I withdraw that comment about exact same wording. 5 dimes properly specified MADE fg.
 

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I am being told this is 5 Dimes wording of the prop,"will there be a field goal over 43.5 yards, Yes or No."
 

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This is a tough one...I am one of Nine.com's biggest critics but I think I would side with them on this one if forced to choose.
 

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ppeter said:
I had the max wager on:

"The longest fg of the game will be under 42.5 yards."

That is the EXACT wording of the prop.

The prop did not say "The longest MADE fg will be under 42.5 yards."

In the Seattle game, a fg was ATTEMPED but missed. That means the result is ZERO yards, and under players should have been paid given the wording of Nine's prop.

Instead, nine graded it as a push. I spent 10 minutes with their prop manager, Mike, who was a gentlemen but did not budge in my request to regrade it. He insisted the prop meant to say MADE fg. I told him THAT MADE NO SENSE BECAUSE 1) the prop did not specify a FG had to be MADE, and 2) once a FG was attempted, the prop became "live action" because at that point, it was possible for one side to win and one side to lose. It was Mike's position that "this is the way they always have graded it." I said fine, if that was the case, they should have specified the FG had to be MADE in the body of the prop language.

IF NO FGS WERE ATTEMPTED, THEN I AGREE 100% THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NO ACTION. IN THIS CASE, I BELIEVE NINE IS LOOKING FOR A WAY TO AVOID PAYING OUT THIS PROP. THEY HAD SUBSTANTIAL ACTION ON THE UNDER, AND MIKE ADMITTED NOBODY WAS ON THE OVER DUE TO THE WEATHER.

I heard 5 dimes had the exact same wording of Nine's prop and paid out, so kudos to 5 dimes.

By the wording of the prop it should be graded no action.

There were no field goals in this game. Makes no difference whether they were attempted or not.

For you to have won there would have to be a field goal made.
 

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I will give you another reason the grading is correct.

By your understanding of the prop if a field goal attempt was kicked over 42 yards you would have lost.

Did not say made...
 

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ppeter said:
I had the max wager on:

"The longest fg of the game will be under 42.5 yards."

That is the EXACT wording of the prop.

The prop did not say "The longest MADE fg will be under 42.5 yards."


Hate to say it, but I don't think you have much of a case ... to me, it is reasonably clear that they are referring to a MADE field goal.

Why ? Well think about this ....

If a similar prop said "longest touchdown of the game will be under 42.5 yards", would you think that you had a winning bet if there was a 50 yard pass attempt that fell incomplete ? No, of course you wouldn't. Similar deal on the field goal prop that you're referring to ... it's referring to a MADE field goal.

It's only a field goal if it's good.
 

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Another vote in favor of nine.com's grading.

That is part of the negative correlation of a "The longest fg of the game will be under 42.5 yards." wager.

There was no FG in the game, therefore no wagers.
 

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