I have had this question: These games which are usually called 6 deck. Are they like a real life casino where they go througha shoe and then shuffle or are they like one where there is a continous shuffle after every hand. I suspect the latter but they should disclose this on their sites. It is very hypnotic and I find myself playing the game far more than if a went to a regular casino.
I have lost every time I tried....
I thought it was RIGGED...
then, my buddy won 20K playing online Black Jack at Pinny (of course he pissed it all back the next day)....
dont know what to think.... so I DO NOT play anymore.....
Even if it is a 6 deck shoe, the CARDS, are 'CYBER-SHUFFELD' after each hand.
I thought it was RIGGED...
then, my buddy won 20K playing online Black Jack at Pinny (of course he pissed it all back the next day)....
dont know what to think.... so I DO NOT play anymore.....
Even if it is a 6 deck shoe, the CARDS, are 'CYBER-SHUFFELD' after each hand.
Pinnacle casino was my complete downfall. I got hooked badly and I can tell you with utmost certainty that it is rigged. Of course I sound like a pissed off gambelr who lost his money but it is more than that and I am not writing this in an emotional rampage.
It is absolutely amazing how many times the dealer pulls 21 whenever you double or split, I don't have exact figures but it it a large majority of the time.
Intially I went in to the casino with $500 US.... won a bit... lost a bit.... seemed like a regular casino..... went in again, same thing... a few hot streaks, a few losing streaks as in any real casino. The disadvantage I found was obvisouly only being to play on hand and not being able to split more than once. Nevertheless I dealt with it and played some blackjack.
A few days, after winning a bit and losing a bit in the casino, I went back in with $1000 and after about an hour had it up to $21000 + . I was playing the traditional incremental bets on winning streaks and sticking with a flat bet of $50 each losing hand. Of course, I increased the wagers as I increased my bankroll.
To make a long story short, I then went back only to eventually lose more than $27000 in the casino over a few days. The only positive was that I received a $3200 REBATE on these losses, only to go back in and have is sucked back within a half hour. Completely depressed, I chased by sending more money. Over the next 3-4 weeks I sent in $1000 on at least 10 different occasion (after winning on the sportsbook) and got completely smoked each time, not even being able to ramp up the amount before losing. In other words, the casino dealer was winning an average of 7-8 hands out of every 10, and I was playing by the book. I got really hooked and ended up losing all of my money in their damn casino when my intention was only to increase my bankroll for sports wagering. I kept thinking that the losing streaks I would go on would be evened out by a few winning streaks...... nope, there were none.
I did email them out of frustration and they claim to be audited by a 3rd party. I did request a few file outputs on my hands and just as I suspected as I was playing, the dealer pulled 21 on doubles and splits a ridiculous amount of time, plus the dealer will consistently pull 20's and the player whenever hitting on 12,13,14 will also always pull 10's.
I can rant on and on..... and not only because I lost but because I was foolish enough to trust Pinnacle and their casino. My stupidity netted me some huge losses and I also missed out of many sporting events that I wanted to play but ended up losing my account in the casino.
They will block the casino from your page if you want, but since those days are behind me, all I am doing here is offering up some experience and advice.
No way to prove it, but I kept going back and got burnt each time. I am sure that they track your methods, ie. incremental bets when winning etc. and burn you based on your methods.
Never again.
:finger: Pinnacle.
It is absolutely amazing how many times the dealer pulls 21 whenever you double or split, I don't have exact figures but it it a large majority of the time.
Intially I went in to the casino with $500 US.... won a bit... lost a bit.... seemed like a regular casino..... went in again, same thing... a few hot streaks, a few losing streaks as in any real casino. The disadvantage I found was obvisouly only being to play on hand and not being able to split more than once. Nevertheless I dealt with it and played some blackjack.
A few days, after winning a bit and losing a bit in the casino, I went back in with $1000 and after about an hour had it up to $21000 + . I was playing the traditional incremental bets on winning streaks and sticking with a flat bet of $50 each losing hand. Of course, I increased the wagers as I increased my bankroll.
To make a long story short, I then went back only to eventually lose more than $27000 in the casino over a few days. The only positive was that I received a $3200 REBATE on these losses, only to go back in and have is sucked back within a half hour. Completely depressed, I chased by sending more money. Over the next 3-4 weeks I sent in $1000 on at least 10 different occasion (after winning on the sportsbook) and got completely smoked each time, not even being able to ramp up the amount before losing. In other words, the casino dealer was winning an average of 7-8 hands out of every 10, and I was playing by the book. I got really hooked and ended up losing all of my money in their damn casino when my intention was only to increase my bankroll for sports wagering. I kept thinking that the losing streaks I would go on would be evened out by a few winning streaks...... nope, there were none.
I did email them out of frustration and they claim to be audited by a 3rd party. I did request a few file outputs on my hands and just as I suspected as I was playing, the dealer pulled 21 on doubles and splits a ridiculous amount of time, plus the dealer will consistently pull 20's and the player whenever hitting on 12,13,14 will also always pull 10's.
I can rant on and on..... and not only because I lost but because I was foolish enough to trust Pinnacle and their casino. My stupidity netted me some huge losses and I also missed out of many sporting events that I wanted to play but ended up losing my account in the casino.
They will block the casino from your page if you want, but since those days are behind me, all I am doing here is offering up some experience and advice.
No way to prove it, but I kept going back and got burnt each time. I am sure that they track your methods, ie. incremental bets when winning etc. and burn you based on your methods.
Never again.
:finger: Pinnacle.
thanks for sharing the story NHLcapper....
interesting.....
on the one hand, if you had walked away after being up 21K & had asked them to shut down your casino account at that time, you would then have been up 21K on their casino.... & I bet woudnt think it was rigged?
on the other hand....
I can empathize with what you said because every time I tried their casino same thing happened to me....
at the end of the day.....
If It is not a LIVE sporting event, I am not doing any ONLINE gambling, no blackjack, no Poker, no nothing.....
I need to be able to see the results in the TV screen in the form of a sporting event
interesting.....
on the one hand, if you had walked away after being up 21K & had asked them to shut down your casino account at that time, you would then have been up 21K on their casino.... & I bet woudnt think it was rigged?
on the other hand....
I can empathize with what you said because every time I tried their casino same thing happened to me....
at the end of the day.....
If It is not a LIVE sporting event, I am not doing any ONLINE gambling, no blackjack, no Poker, no nothing.....
I need to be able to see the results in the TV screen in the form of a sporting event
Go2Guygave the best advice. As a long time counter(at one time a pro until I ran out of places to play) It was difficult to fully trust many dealers when your eyes were 3 feet from their hands as they dealt. Why should anybody trust the honesty of a game in cyberspace with no regulation not even the thin veneir of regs of the Nevada Gaming Control, et al?
exactly....people never think there streak will endBrock Landers said:
they say one more time and then maybe lose a hand and say ok ill bet once more to get it back and get out of here for good and then BAM lose it
then they say ok double down and ill win and get out of here for good BOOM loss
then all in and BOOM 20000 gone in 48 seconds which took weeks to build I can see it
Dante said:
Pretty accurate, when you are out of control and think you can't lose.
My buddy lost the cash in my account, called me near tears, said he was a degenerate gambler, has a problem and was going to his parents to pay me back, which he did 2 days later...Thankfully he seems to have learned huis lesson. Getting you ass kicked by the old man tends to do the trick.
JimFiestSux said:Just a little HEADS UP GUYS!! These books are getting killed with Football this year with their clients cleaning up. An easy way to get some cash back on their end is their casino online. Bet with caution at sportsbooks online casinos!!
good point and I've been thinking along the same lines as well.
