BB-- Without a doubt their average HOLD PERCENTAGE is down, but that does not translate into them getting their *ss handed to them in my book.
Living in Vegas for 17 years as an example, nothing was more disturbing than hearing the bookmakers cry over a suppossedly "terrible" weekend.
Give me a break!
Having worked in the Vegas business for over 9 years, only experienced ONE losing NFL week EVER as a bookmaker and that was only because a patron drilled a large 10-team parlay.
Living in Vegas for 17 years as an example, nothing was more disturbing than hearing the bookmakers cry over a suppossedly "terrible" weekend.
Give me a break!
Having worked in the Vegas business for over 9 years, only experienced ONE losing NFL week EVER as a bookmaker and that was only because a patron drilled a large 10-team parlay.
A lot of BIG line moves this week. So it could be people are actually betting these games early, and all the favorites. Or books are movingthe lines based on action, or they are booking scared tryign to head of a glut on the favs.
This is one of the biggest weeks of moves I have seen. Maybe second only to that week a couple months ago. (where the books made out like banbits)
If te dogs win, the books should do well, if the favs win it goes from bad too worse (seemingly). If a few of these games land on sides or middles, it might be time to think abot getting all your money out and let discretion be the ebetter part of valor.
Will be a very interesting day to say the least.
Personally I like a few dogs today. But I also llike a few favorites. I am not, nor have I even been a big follow in the mainstream thinking i.e. dog v fav. I play a game based on merit and teams, and usually buy back/value potential. Football is so dynamic you have to change your strategy almost on a yearly basis. Those that haven't are getting killed this year, those that have are making a mint.
Not sure if that what seperates the "sharp" guys from the "square" guys, but it certainly helps. Anyone that thinks "sharps" are losing because this is a bad dog year doesn't undertsand gambling and has basically been brainwashed into that sort of thinking.
If a guy is really sharp he will see the indicators and adjust accoding. Anyone that continues flailing at a losing position is no better than the guy who plays teams with White home jerseys. They may win enough to look clever, and may even have a nice run here and there, but they have little chance of winning consistntly, and one bad year can destroy anything they werelucky enoughto win in the past.
This is one of the biggest weeks of moves I have seen. Maybe second only to that week a couple months ago. (where the books made out like banbits)
If te dogs win, the books should do well, if the favs win it goes from bad too worse (seemingly). If a few of these games land on sides or middles, it might be time to think abot getting all your money out and let discretion be the ebetter part of valor.
Will be a very interesting day to say the least.
Personally I like a few dogs today. But I also llike a few favorites. I am not, nor have I even been a big follow in the mainstream thinking i.e. dog v fav. I play a game based on merit and teams, and usually buy back/value potential. Football is so dynamic you have to change your strategy almost on a yearly basis. Those that haven't are getting killed this year, those that have are making a mint.
Not sure if that what seperates the "sharp" guys from the "square" guys, but it certainly helps. Anyone that thinks "sharps" are losing because this is a bad dog year doesn't undertsand gambling and has basically been brainwashed into that sort of thinking.
If a guy is really sharp he will see the indicators and adjust accoding. Anyone that continues flailing at a losing position is no better than the guy who plays teams with White home jerseys. They may win enough to look clever, and may even have a nice run here and there, but they have little chance of winning consistntly, and one bad year can destroy anything they werelucky enoughto win in the past.
<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=thead colSpan=2>12-11-2005 01:32 PM</TD></TR><TR title="Post 2415565" vAlign=top><TD class=alt1 align=middle width=125>Fishhead</TD><TD class=alt2>Any book worth their weight in gold should be winning every week in the NFL....................</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Hmmm, let's see. The faves went 12-3 last week with one game being a pk game. All but two faves would have covered a teaser with them in it. And Fishead thinks this was a winning week for the books. This might be the goofiest statement I've ever seen on the RX.
Hmmm, let's see. The faves went 12-3 last week with one game being a pk game. All but two faves would have covered a teaser with them in it. And Fishead thinks this was a winning week for the books. This might be the goofiest statement I've ever seen on the RX.
Kiss you have basically become a troll in these forums these days. Slashing and burning people here and there with your stupid and uselss comments.
Why not try making a few statements yourself that are gambling related. Hell even sports related. Other than a few backhanded comments, or film critiques your lists of posts lately has been pretty sparce in the content department.
Here's an idea. When you question someone or think their plays have little merit, try giving a differing opinion. That way a dialogoue can insue where both parties can exchange ideas, then other might get involved as well. That is what forums are supposed to be for. Not riding guys asses and taking shit they say out of context and putting the "Kiss spin" on it.
Damn I think you missed your calling. You could have been the next Pat OBrien or Morton Downey Jr. Or any other reporter that takes stuff and "makes it their own".
Why not try making a few statements yourself that are gambling related. Hell even sports related. Other than a few backhanded comments, or film critiques your lists of posts lately has been pretty sparce in the content department.
Here's an idea. When you question someone or think their plays have little merit, try giving a differing opinion. That way a dialogoue can insue where both parties can exchange ideas, then other might get involved as well. That is what forums are supposed to be for. Not riding guys asses and taking shit they say out of context and putting the "Kiss spin" on it.
Damn I think you missed your calling. You could have been the next Pat OBrien or Morton Downey Jr. Or any other reporter that takes stuff and "makes it their own".
Fishhead said:
I normally respect your opinion...but this has to be one of the more ignorant comments you have ever made. Not only has there not been a season like this EVER as far as favorites covering, books have been getting CRUSHED on teasers every week as well.
If you think books like Pinnacle and Olympic aren't worth their weight in gold, I guess this comment would make sense...but if you think books are making money every week this season you have lost your mind.
I know of top notch books that are down for the season. Not their normal "this has been a bad year" bs...literally losing money. Not the 1-2% hold they normally cry about...but players actually holding.
Working offshore many years we often fantasized of having just one window in Vegas! You obviously know Vegas but, little about offshore and/or credit shops. It's not nearly as easy as the free money you experience in Vegas! A common saying in real booking is that you have to beat a player twice. And in Vegas you have no cuts to overcome either - yup, you guys have no clue how hard it is to win sometimes.Fishhead said:
