The ONLY reason Brett Favre should retire, and there is only one reason.

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Greeen Bay will not come close to winning over the next two years...and this is the only reason...yeah he has struggled at times this year, but make no mistake if he was on a team like Denver he would still be going to the Pro Bowl.

He's in a no win situation.
 

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I can't agree with that...they would be in the playoff hunt in their division THIS YEAR if it weren't for his play.
 

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Clip Joint said:
I can't agree with that...they would be in the playoff hunt in their division THIS YEAR if it weren't for his play.

Ok

Do you think he has any help around him?
 

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Dubpoet said:
I want him in philly trade for mcnabb

Would love to see him go play for a real contender but, it would be almost impossible for that to happen, he's already stated he doesn't want to learn a new system, and for him to leave to play 1-2 yrs elsewhere at this point, just doesn't seem even remotely possible.
 

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Journeyman said:
Ok

Do you think he has any help around him?

That is a nice excuse...but he has a defense that has played well enough to win. There are a lot of QBs without weapons that aren't losing ball games for their team.

They definitely have the defense to win. He can't play that way...he forces balls and puts his defense in terrible positions and even gives away defensive touchdowns.

They lack weapons on offense for sure...but there are plenty of other teams in the same boat that are winning.
 

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Week 1: 3 turnovers for Favre cost them big.
Week 2: Another 2 INTs for Favre before trying to mount a late comeback.
Week 3: 3 more INTs in the 1 point loss.
Week 4: Favre has 2 COSTLY turnovers to dig a 19-point deficit before turning it on (too little too late) but all the media can do is talk about his heart and great comeback.

That doesn't even begin to look at the last 3 weeks.

If this was ANY other player in the NFL, he would have been benched weeks ago.
 

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I'd say that he sucks is a good reason too.

Put him on a good team, at this stage of his career, he is simply done.
 

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koidog u dont make sense.......

favre is still a player that would win almost anywhere....the reason he is throwing those INT's is because the receivers aren't getting open enough so he has to make a perfect pass every single time between 3 and 4 defenders just for the receiver to have a chance to catch it.

also like 1/3 of his INT's have been tipped balls and unfortunate bounces.
 

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Favre has always been a player that relied on his great arm strenth to bail him out. It seemed even in his Glory years, his 3 TD games were about a hairlip away from being 3 INT games.

Now? He sucks.
 

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koidog said:
Favre has always been a player that relied on his great arm strenth to bail him out. It seemed even in his Glory years, his 3 TD games were about a hairlip away from being 3 INT games.

Now? He sucks.

You better take a look at his three MVP year stats.

By the way, FAVRE was great BEFORE his first MVP season, even with all the interceptions.

Will not dispute though, this as not been a good year for Favre, and no doubt a lot of it is his own doing.

Having said that, there is NO DOUBT in my mind that he is NOT NEAR washed up.............just in a situation where he going through the motions and also trying to do to much on his own.
 
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The only thing that sucks is guys like Koidog ragging on a legend like Favre who can still get it done ...

Koidog, outside of that sacrifice bunt ya layed down in the 7th game of your final Little League season can ya educate one and all why anyone would give a crap about you ragging on one of the all-time greats ?
 

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Clip Joint said:
I can't agree with that...they would be in the playoff hunt in their division THIS YEAR if it weren't for his play.

I agree if they could get TO and draft Bush look out...Their defense is not that bad but they need to lose out and have Houston win one
 

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Fishhead said:
You better take a look at his three MVP year stats.

By the way, FAVRE was great BEFORE his first MVP season, even with all the interceptions.

Will not dispute though, this as not been a good year for Favre, and no doubt a lot of it is his own doing.

Having said that, there is NO DOUBT in my mind that he is NOT NEAR washed up.............just in a situation where he going through the motions and also trying to do to much on his own.

I say Favre sucks NOW and you tell me to look at his MVP years?

What does that have to do with anything?
 

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doc mercer said:
The only thing that sucks is guys like Koidog ragging on a legend like Favre who can still get it done ...

Koidog, outside of that sacrifice bunt ya layed down in the 7th game of your final Little League season can ya educate one and all why anyone would give a crap about you ragging on one of the all-time greats ?

You got it Doc, Favre is a better QB than I'll ever be, that's why I'm picking on him. It has nothing to do with his throwing more picks than INT's and his Robust 75 QB rating.

Really get real, so you Never critize a Pro Player?
 

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if anyone should hang it up it's Steve McNair he is singlehandedly gonna kill my bet on tennessee
 

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Defense bails him out again after he puts them in another bad spot with a turnover...
 

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He finally gets a top 10 defense for the first time in 5 years and throws it all away....literally!!
 

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