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Dec 11, 2005

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Broward pari-mutuels Thursday won a long-awaited legislative go-ahead to install Las Vegas-style slots, but their joy was muted by projections that a high tax rate on their profits will stifle plans to build the glittering entertainment and hotel complexes they hoped for.



"I imagine we'll have to go back to the drawing board," said Dick Feinberg, general manager of Pompano Park Harness Track, which is owned by Isle of Capri Casinos. "The higher the tax, the more difficult it is to justify an investment."



In finally passing the slots legislation -- exactly nine months after Broward voters demanded it -- legislators set a 50 percent tax rate, one of the highest in the country. Combined with requirements for the pari-mutuels to hand over some of their profits to the county and local cities as well as horse and dog breeders and owners, some officials said the actual tax on profits will be closer to 65 percent.



"I think it's setting them up for failure," warned Sen. Steve Geller, D-Hallandale Beach, one of the Legislature's vocal gambling proponents. "I believe they are doing this so the governor can lead a repeal campaign and say, 'See? Look what you have instead of those nice facilities you were promised.'"



The regulations, approved by the House in a 110-8 vote and then by the Senate, 23-14, allow the county's four pari-mutuels to each install up to 1,500 machines.



Owners of the area's jai-alai fronton and three racetracks had planned to renovate their aging facilities once they were allowed to install slot machines, adding restaurants, nightclubs, entertainment stages, hotels and convention centers. But those plans were based on legislators agreeing to a lower tax rate and more machines.



Feinberg's Pompano Park had envisioned a $150 million complex that included two hotels, restaurants, a 157,000-square-foot "racino" and even a water park.



Plans unveiled in the spring for Hollywood Greyhound called for a Mardi Gras theme with one or two entertainment stages, at least three themed bars, a restaurant, a simulcast theater and the casino.



On Thursday, Dan Adkins, vice president of Hollywood Greyhound, said he would now likely spend $35million to $45 million to remodel an existing building.



"The grand plans I have for expansion I still have, and if I can make it work under this tax rate and environment and compete with the [Indian] tribes then I'll have to decide later whether to go ahead," said Adkins, the leader of the drive to get slots approved by voters statewide and then in Broward.



Broward County Commissioner Ilene Lieberman, who backed the slots referendum this spring, said, "It's unfortunate that the Legislature has once again thwarted the will of the voters. By imposing such a high tax rate, they guarantee that less money will be raised for education than promised by the constitutional amendment."



Still, the legislative compromise is expected to raise $209 million for public schools by the 2007-08 school year.



Hallandale Beach Mayor Joy Cooper said pari-mutuels would still make a profit. "You're already seeing redevelopment at Gulfstream, and we'll see more as the community grows."



Gulfstream Park has undertaken a massive renovation, including a new track and 300,000-square-foot, three-story building.



Gov. Jeb Bush, who called legislators into special session this week to enact the slots regulations and revamp the state's Medicaid program, said he doesn't view slots as an economic development issue. Although an outspoken opponent of gambling, he said he'll sign the slots bill into law.



"It's not going to feel good," he said. "The fact that there's going to be a bunch of slot machines in Broward County doesn't warm my heart."



Bill Thompson, a professor of public administration at the University of Nevada-Las Vegas who has long studied the gambling industry, said the Florida tax rate is so onerous that little investment will likely be made and most of the slots clientele will be local. Because of that, he predicted gambling-related social problems could be worse and other businesses will see little benefit.



"They will be dumps that just extract money from local pockets," he said.



Thursday's vote came a year after state voters agreed to let Broward and Miami-Dade voters decide whether they want slot machines within their borders. In March, Broward voters approved the idea, but Miami-Dade voters rejected it.



Broward legislators often faced an uphill battle in getting their colleagues to implement the constitutional amendment. The House and Senate were unable to reach agreement during their spring session but appeared more motivated to act this week from fears the courts could end up writing slots regulations if the Legislature didn't act.



Some of the stiffest opposition to implementing the slots rules came from Orlando-area legislators who warned that the spread of gambling could hurt Florida's family friendly tourism industry.



Allowing slots in Broward County, argued Sen. Dan Webster, R-Winter Garden, would lead to "the degradation of our moral compass, of our family friendly state."



Former No Casinos Chairman Rep. Randy Johnson, R-Celebration, warned, "The pari-mutuel industry has spent millions of dollars imposing its will and this is just the beginning."



Johnson has pledged to lead the fight to repeal the constitutional amendment approved by voters statewide last November, and Bush said he would like to be part of that effort.



The new casinos -- which will open in six months or less -- will join a competitive gambling market in South Florida, where the Seminoles' Hard Rock Hotel & Casino and day cruises are a strong lure for bettors.



Now Bush must forge an agreement with the Seminoles and Miccosukees, who operate a casino in Miami-Dade County.



Neither tribe has been forthcoming about how much they are willing to be taxed. But Geller doubted they would agree to pay the equivalent of the 50 percent tax rate the pari-mutuels will be charged, predicting instead the tribes could pay as little as 1 to 2 percent of their revenue to the state. Local tourism officials, meanwhile, said there would be no change in how the area is marketed to tourists and conventions. "The addition of a couple thousand slot machines doesn't change us from greater Fort Lauderdale to an alternative to Atlantic City," tourism director Nicki Grossman said.

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The state has awarded its first license for Las Vegas-style slots. Right now, all slot machines on state land are considered a form of bingo. Broward County voters approved the new slots in March.

They will be at the Mardi Gras race track and gaming center in Hallandale Beach. Officials there say they hope to have the machines running by mid-November.
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Fishhead said:
Finally a little bit of good news in the gaming world.

I don't get it? What are you anti slot machine? Or is this sarcasm? Please clarify for those of us who don't sleep with our laptops actually on our laps.
 

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FISH is very PRO slot machine and probably has more slot cards than ANYONE in Florida PERIOD. There is hope for real gambling in FLA!!!!
 

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FISH is very PRO slot machine and probably has more slot cards than ANYONE in Florida PERIOD. There is hope for real gambling in FLA!!!!

I wouldn't call taxing something into a non factor is "great news." The tribes may benefit but this is hardly great news. Did you guys read the post?
 

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"I think it's setting them up for failure," warned Sen. Steve Geller, D-Hallandale Beach, one of the Legislature's vocal gambling proponents. "I believe they are doing this so the governor can lead a repeal campaign and say, 'See? Look what you have instead of those nice facilities you were promised.'"



How is this great news?
 

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5teamparlay said:
FISH is very PRO slot machine and probably has more slot cards than ANYONE in Florida PERIOD. There is hope for real gambling in FLA!!!!


Add some blackjack tables and we will really be looking good
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Mar 28, 2007
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The success of Las Vegas-style slot machine gambling at Broward County's pari-mutuels has prompted a state legislative committee to further relax state regulations on the pari-mutuel casinos. It has also prompted the Seminole Indian Tribe, who operate three casinos in South Florida, to push for their own Vegas-style slot machines.

In a bill introduced by Wilton Manors Representative Jack Seiler and approved easily by Florida's House Committee on Business Regulation, the four pari-mutuels in Broward County would be allowed to have up to 2,000 slot machines each, up from the previous 1,500 limit.

They would also be permitted to stay open for 18 hours on weekdays and 24 hours on weekends and holidays. All slot machines could be connected within their casinos and offer "progressive jackpots".

Progressive jackpots allow players in all "connected casinos" to compete against each other for a large payout. Also, ATM machines would be allowed on pari-mutuel grounds, provided they are not in the same room with the slot machines.

A pari-mutuel is a betting system in which all bets and place them together in a pool. Taxes and a house take are removed, and payoff odds are calculated by sharing the pool among all placed bets. Broward County has four pari-mutuel locations: Gulfstream Park Racing & Casino in Hallandale Beach; Mardi Gras Racetrack & Gaming Center, also in Hallandale Beach; Pompano Park Harness Track in Pompano Beach; and the Dania Jai-Alai Casino in Dania Beach, which is not yet open.

In the four months since the machines have been installed, the state collected $20 million in taxes, 50 percent of the total revenue. The tax rate would not change under the proposed bill. And like the state lottery, the tax revenues collected are contributed to Florida's public schools.

"The casino gaming industry is an economic engine in Broward County, and it is a fast-growing and lucrative source of tax revenue for the state," Seiler said.

A similar Senate bill, favored by pari-mutuel executives, would offer additional tax credits to the pari-mutuels if they repair and upgrade their facilities.

The bill must pass to the legislature for approval and would only become law when Governor Charlie Crist signs it.

Despite the success of the new slot machines, not everybody is celebrating. In early March, the Seminole Indian Tribe filed a lawsuit in Miami claiming they are going to suffer "significant economic harm" because of their competitive disadvantage in the slot machine area.

The Seminoles' slot machines are "bingo-style," with no money or coins are inserted or disbursed from the machines. The Seminoles own three casinos in Florida: one in Coconut Creek, one in Hollywood and one in Tampa. They report 52 million customers and sales of $1.7 billion annually.

The suit is asking the federal court to force the U.S. government to develop regulations that will allow the Seminoles to have the same type of slot machines as their commercial Broward rivals. Crist said he is willing to negotiate a gambling compact with the Seminole Tribe, a move that could bring millions into Florida's economy which analysts expect could experience a $1.2 billion budget shortfall for fiscal year 2007.
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broward is kicking ass. the rooms are packed daily. fuck the seminoles.....they don't pay one penny in taxes and all they do is bitch!!!!!!!!
 

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I will say it again, I would not trust the Indians with a wooden nickel. I have heard many reliable stories over the years of them fucking people out of jackpots and when I say reliable I mean reliable; I am a business attorney in South Florida and my father used to be a judge down here.
 

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they kill you on the rake @ the seminole joints. There rake on the poker tables is ridiculous. 65$ MULTI, and they rake like 19$ on it.
 

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