In 2006, look for the Rx Handicapper of the year challenge!

Journeyman · Dec 14, 2005

After having the idea for Capper America (where posters would represent their state in a handicapping challenge) I decided it may be better to just have an all around tournament "Handicapper League" if you will, where we would have all the major seasons of sports handicapping covered and crown an overall "Rx Handicapper of the Year" for 2006 and years to come, which would become an annual event ...

The handicapper season would start in the beginning of the year some time, and we would have 'mini seasons' within each sports season, with small breaks between the seasons.

Still working on final details and would like to throw this out to the forum now for any suggestions and feedback.

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WorldNumberOne · Dec 14, 2005

My only feedback would be to make it a bankroll contest. I think it would make the most realistic.

Start everyone with $ 10,000 ..

Set limits on how many plays per day and how much can be risked.

Would be fun to see who can make the most the money over the course of a years time.

Journeyman · Dec 14, 2005

That is interesting! A bankroll is a great suggestion...thanks WNO

There will be limits to keep it realistic to a real gambling scenario.

I would like to see this carry thru the year, so we can crown an overall Rx Grand Champion !

PatrickMcIrish · Dec 14, 2005

Good idea Jman, just keep you mods out of it to give us working stiffs a chance. :toast:

Journeyman · Dec 14, 2005

Patrick McIrish said:
Good idea Jman, just keep you mods out of it to give us working stiffs a chance. :toast:

Look forward to all the veteran posters participating, including Patrick McIrish.

PatrickMcIrish · Dec 14, 2005

Seriously I like the idea. Hope there is not too much fluctuation on how many units you can play, to me that takes away from the capping side of it. Regardless of how you do it I am in though, looking forward to it.

Jarbo · Dec 14, 2005

Look out for a new "poster" joining the Rx for this contest.

His Handle will be -Doc Fisky Vikjarb

Journeyman · Dec 14, 2005

There will be a minimum post count eligibility.

TANG · Dec 14, 2005

what are we playing for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

and yes i like the $10,000 bankroll format with limits of games allowed and limits on how much can be wagered on wach game.

but what again are we playing for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Budworth22 · Dec 14, 2005

World Number One said:
My only feedback would be to make it a bankroll contest. I think it would make the most realistic.

World Number One said:
Start everyone with $ 10,000 ..

Set limits on how many plays per day and how much can be risked.

Would be fun to see who can make the most the money over the course of a years time.

Like the idea of a $10,000 Bankroll. Hate the idea of limits of what a person can bet (amount), or a max # of bets. This gives people without money managment an institutionalized money managment scheme. Let those of us with solid MM exercise it, don't impose good MM on people who don't have it. Over the course of the year, what this will likely measure is MM, and not capping ability.

We should have a minimum # of bets over the course of the season though, to prevent a scenario where a poster drops all 10K on say a +120 dog, wins, then sits on it. I'd say 500 wagers Minimum, at a minimum wager of $100. That equates to a minimum of $50,000 wagered, and averages out to about 10 bets per week. That way a person can't sit on some huge lead. Don't impose a max bet size or max # of wagers per day/year! Those jokesters will bury themselves and dissapear quickly anyway.

WorldNumberOne · Dec 14, 2005

Journeyman said:
That is interesting! A bankroll is a great suggestion...thanks WNO

There will be limits to keep it realistic to a real gambling scenario.

I would like to see this carry thru the year, so we can crown an overall Rx Grand Champion !

it has to be as close as possible to what everyone does on daily basis. we all do our homework , check the lines, decide on how much to wager .

i also think it would be great to charge 50 bucks to get in and have the RX match the entry fees and pay several places.

100 guys pay 50 each = 5000 . get the site to match the 5000 and now we have contest...

NEWPORT · Dec 14, 2005

World Number One said:
My only feedback would be to make it a bankroll contest. I think it would make the most realistic.

Start everyone with $ 10,000 ..

Set limits on how many plays per day and how much can be risked.

Would be fun to see who can make the most the money over the course of a years time.

When you read my prior posts to Capper America, I was singing your exact song. I said the same thing!!! I think a year long contest is fine, but do not make rules on how many selections have to come from one sport It is really not realistic, because all handicappers do not cap all sports nor for a full season. What I would do, is as I said a couple times prior is collect xyz money from all participants, You need to make this substantial, and have 5 winners like in the past contests.

Set everyones roll to 10,000 and top 5 at the end date are in. Will be some fun scrambling at the end of the tourney. I cannot believe I am going to say no parlays, but I just cannot see how you can do it. Parlays are part of real gambling, but I cannot see anything over a 3 teamer.

Bankroll and have either and end date, or first one to reach xyz figure. I think a dime or 2 dime limit on the plays is appropriate. I think in a years time you will find so many bankrolls are out of the contest, that elimination will be part of the attrition. Once your bankroll is done SEE YA

Bad Money Management will get many out with a limit of 2 grand. I know I will be risky in the beginning to try and get a lead, and I might be one the first out, BUT THAT IS THE BEAUTY of the contest. GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE!!!!

Just like an early ALL IN the WS OF POKER!!!

I can tell you also one other thing, those that are too conservative will be out as well. Contest with a bankroll, and WATCH OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Especially with at ;least 3 team parlays or at a minimum 2 teamers

Budworth22 · Dec 14, 2005

Reconsidering my position on this somewhat.

How's this for rules.
10K Bankroll
Minimum # of Bets: 500 (It's about 10 Plays per week)
Minimum Wager Amount: (-110) 110/100 / 100/110 (+110)
Minimum # of Bets per day: None
Maximum # of Bets: None
Maximum Bet Amount: (-110) 1100/1000 / 1000/1100 (+110)
Maximum # of Bets per Day: None
I think that the above example is perfect.

Some other thougts:
Will futures be allowed? Futures are a large part of some gamblers arsenal.

Will the lines come from only one book? (I should hope not, because that would take out the ability to scalp/middle, and eliminates line shopping. I should think that any Book on RX Livelines +Pinnacle should be allowed).

Nobody should be allowed to wager more than their available bankroll. If they have futures, that money must be accounted for so that they don't exceed their roll in a single day.

Also, to cut the pool size down at a certian date penalizes people who play sports that are primarily later in the year as their main sport.

Others should chime In, this could be a great contest.

oldmanTED · Dec 14, 2005

I think it is a great idea for the members. Unfortunately, I don't cap baseball during the summer very much as I'm more of a homer for the Giants. So July and August may be slow for me. But, I could always try. What the heck?

Journeyman · Dec 14, 2005

One of the biggest problems, we have to figure out how to set the lines...do we use a set line from what book, and when is that line posted, or do we allow the current line and run into the problem of having varying lines?

NEWPORT · Dec 14, 2005

Budworth22 said:
Reconsidering my position on this somewhat.

How's this for rules.
10K Bankroll
Minimum # of Bets: 500 (It's about 10 Plays per week)
Minimum Wager Amount: (-110) 110/100 / 100/110 (+110)
Minimum # of Bets per day: None
Maximum # of Bets: None
Maximum Bet Amount: (-110) 1100/1000 / 1000/1100 (+110)
Maximum # of Bets per Day: None
I think that the above example is perfect.

Some other thougts:
Will futures be allowed? Futures are a large part of some gamblers arsenal.

Will the lines come from only one book? (I should hope not, because that would take out the ability to scalp/middle, and eliminates line shopping. I should think that any Book on RX Livelines +Pinnacle should be allowed).

Nobody should be allowed to wager more than their available bankroll. If they have futures, that money must be accounted for so that they don't exceed their roll in a single day.

Also, to cut the pool size down at a certian date penalizes people who play sports that are primarily later in the year as their main sport.

Others should chime In, this could be a great contest.

Minimum number of bets is not needed, you will be gambling against your competition. As far as futeres, I think that is too long term for this contest, even though you have a year. If their are futures, then there WILL need to be parlays. There might be a whole week where I do not make a bet at all, I am not betting jsut because I have a minimum to reach. Like the dime and 1 dollar mins and max's, that is fine. And remember>>>>>>

THE KEY QUESTION I ASKED JMAN BEFORE WHO IS GOING TO HIRE TO CALCULATE EVERYONES DAILY RECORD, AND WHAT LINES DO WE USE IN ALL SPORTS. BASEBALL IS ALL MONEY LINE, AND FOR THOSE THAT FORGOT, THEIR ARE 162 GAMES IN BASEBALL MULTIPLIES BY ALL THE TEAMS.......I would be willing to put up a strong ante on this if it is run appropriately

WorldNumberOne · Dec 14, 2005

My only reasoning for setting limits was for record keeping . I actually think that people should be allowed to play up to 10 % of the roll on any given play.

I also agree that a min. number of plays must be played.

I dont like allowing futures . Parlays would be ok , i guess..

Hopefully something will get worked out cause I think it would be great.

And if you were to do a search , I'm pretty sure you could find a topic I started wanting a contest like this some months back..

Journeyman · Dec 14, 2005

Trying to create a 'poster league' atmosphere with this.

WorldNumberOne · Dec 14, 2005

Journeyman said:
One of the biggest problems, we have to figure out how to set the lines...do we use a set line from what book, and when is that line posted, or do we allow the current line and run into the problem of having varying lines?

is it possible for posters to copy and paste a line out of the live lines section ?

if so , its right there in black and white that the line was good at the time of posting.

i would be willing to help in the scoring of this contest. but i'm not quite as good at excel as the dude who keeps the records in the hockey forum contest.

Budworth22 · Dec 14, 2005

I know someone who is developing an interactive tracker forum that is going to feature more than 20 books. It will track your picks with your fictional bankroll and it is all automated. He needs money developing this, and maybe therx could help him if he would lend the services of his site. Heck, it would be good pub for both.