Im one of the few that likes Norv. This team has won 4 games this year, how many should they have won? The problem with this team is not the Head Coach. Its rather simple, AL DAVIS MUST GO!!! The game has passed this old claymation figure. They havent had a winner there since Gruden left. Its not like Turner walked into a winning situation. Until Al Davis goes away, this team will do nothing, most importantly beacuse they have had problems getting a big name coach in there. No proven NFL coach wil go in there knowing that meddling Al will be all over them.