Is the Bengals +224 a good bet now?

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??. . .if they go down here and score there could be some good scalping later.
 

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I wouldn't....This is the time when Kitna has made his mistakes in the past
 

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Yes, in this situation Cinci would only have to win 1 out of 2 games in this spot for the play to have value. With that being said, I think Pit will hold on.
 

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But. . . If Cincy goes down right now and scores. . .the you would have a great scalping right?

I am just trying to get used to live betting and figuring out how to make a profit in doing so.
 

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Kruser6 said:
But. . . If Cincy goes down right now and scores. . .the you would have a great scalping right?

I am just trying to get used to live betting and figuring out how to make a profit in doing so.

That's a big but..
 

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A fool proof way to make money in live wagering is to bet on a game where the spread is -4 or less and betting against the team that scores first. Live wagering ALWAYS overvalues the team that scores first everytime.

For instance, lets say team A is up -3 -110 and they score a TD to open the game they will usally make team B +3 +180 or more which is way too high.

I have been doing most of my wagering live lately. This is why I dont post selection much anymore because most of my wagers are live.

Open an account at Matchbook. You wont be sorry.
 

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Interesting method, chop. I've traded for a while on tradesports but don't really do a whole lot of live betting but I'm interested in doing more live stuff. Any other little tricks like that you care to share?

And do you strictly use Matchbook for live betting? or others as well?
 

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Interesting method, chop. I've traded for a while on tradesports but don't really do a whole lot of live betting but I'm interested in doing more live stuff. Any other little tricks like that you care to share?

And do you strictly use Matchbook for live betting? or others as well?

Matchbook does not ajust the spreed nearly as much as Pinnacle. They will keep the same line the whole game at matchbook and only adjust the spread unless the game gets way out of hand. The only way this method works is if the exchance keeps the same line and only adjust the juice which is why I love Matchbook.

Matchbook is by far the greatest book I have ever used bar-none. And its only going to get better from here on out. I could write a 299 page book on how great they are. I will get rich of this exchange with little or no risk.
 

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You should check out tradesports if you don't have an account there already. They ALWAYS keep the lines the same, 100% of the time. The learning curve is a bit steep because they use their own sort of odds (a % format, with "prices" ranging from 0 to 100 that loosely correspond to sportsbook odds) which are often better for live betting (however a little harder to scalp as you have to convert the odds)

But I do like how they always keep the lines the same...always
 

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For in game betting some books keep a fixed spread and adjust the juice (e.g. WSEX, Matchbook) while others keep a fixed -110/-110 odds and adjust the spread (e.g. Sportingbet). Pinny seems to be unique in doing some of both.

Middling is done with books that adjust the spread while scalping is done with books that adjust the juice.

The strategy of betting against the team that scores first with a -4 or lower spread is NOT INFALLIBLE as the Redskins game illustrated. It is a good strategy though, particular for games that you expect to go back and forth.
 

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WSEX uses the same system with share prices between 0 and 100, but they also show you the money line equivalent of the share price.

WSEX also offers "live drive" betting on select NFL games, where you bet on whether a team will score on each drive. If a team gets into a 3rd and long outside field goal range, you can get a good price on "YES" and then scalp immediately if they convert the 1st down. I have made some good money this season using this feature.
 

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Woody0 said:
For in game betting some books keep a fixed spread and adjust the juice (e.g. WSEX, Matchbook) while others keep a fixed -110/-110 odds and adjust the spread (e.g. Sportingbet). Pinny seems to be unique in doing some of both.

Middling is done with books that adjust the spread while scalping is done with books that adjust the juice.

The strategy of betting against the team that scores first with a -4 or lower spread is NOT INFALLIBLE as the Redskins game illustrated. It is a good strategy though, particular for games that you expect to go back and forth.


Of course its not infallible on a game to game basas but on a longterm bases it is certainly infallible. At +180 for the team that that gets scored on first, they would only have to cover the spread 36% of the time to make a profit. If a team is +4 and the other team scores a TD to open the game and you get +180 you are just a FG away from covering the spread and getting a big +180 winner which happens more than 36% of the time.
 

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Just took Bengals +10.5 at +1000 for a small amount - what the heck!!!!!!!!
 

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Of course its not infallible on a game to game basas but on a longterm bases it is certainly infallible. At +180 for the team that that gets scored on first, they would only have to cover the spread 36% of the time to make a profit. If a team is +4 and the other team scores a TD to open the game and you get +180 you are just a FG away from covering the spread and getting a big +180 winner which happens more than 36% of the time.

Sounds solid.
 

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CHOPTALK said:
Of course its not infallible on a game to game basas but on a longterm bases it is certainly infallible. At +180 for the team that that gets scored on first, they would only have to cover the spread 36% of the time to make a profit. If a team is +4 and the other team scores a TD to open the game and you get +180 you are just a FG away from covering the spread and getting a big +180 winner which happens more than 36% of the time.

Simon Noble of Pinnacle wrote an article about live betting last week. You can find it at TOW. Once you read that, you'll see that what you've written isn't something he agrees with.

I don't mean to say that you're wrong - I am just saying that his view and your view are totally different - and I guess that is why you get +180.
 

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