Party Poker Snafu may have cost millions!

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Wednesday, January 11, excitement spread across internet poker message boards after a programming error on Party Poker’s website credited possibly thousands of customers’ accounts with hundreds of dollars each.

The strange mistake was somehow discovered when a player logged into his account page on PartyPoker.com. Party Poker is currently running tournaments for players to win entries into the Party Poker Million V, a World Poker Tour event held onboard a cruise ship. On the account page, there was a link to take you to information about the cruise, had you been fortunate enough to win the trip and entry. The thing was, everybody who went to their account page and clicked this link was informed that they had won the cruise for two.

This is where the fiasco began. As a players advanced through the pages about the cruise, the site gave the option to upgrade or downgrade the room that they had “won.” If someone downgraded the room, a deposit would be made into their Party Poker account for the difference in price, which in this case was $400 for two people. Some people only got $200, for some reason, but most people, simply by clicking on a few things on Party’s site, received $400 in their Party Poker accounts – instantly.

On top of that, many people found that they only needed to click on the cruise link, not even going as far as downgrading the room, to get the money.

As one would expect, this created a firestorm of activity across internet poker forums. Players debated on whether or not to play with the money, and if so, what games? Some thought that they should just try cashing out immediately. Other scolded the people who wanted to use the unearned money for being unethical. If they did cash out, would Party Poker try to get the money back? Would accounts be banned? Arguments raged on throughout the day – sinners versus saints, with many entertained observers laughing at it all.

The biggest problem for Party Poker is that there were most likely many people who did actually play with the money. It’s one thing if they lost it all playing blackjack – no harm, no foul. The money goes back to the house. But what if they lost it all at the poker tables, as many reported they did? Can Party Poker figure out which players won money from those who had used the $400? If so, can they legally, ethically, or feasibly take it back? After all, in most cases, the person who won the money didn’t know anything shady was going on. While Party Poker is a big company with deep pockets, it would only take 2,500 players, a tiny sliver of Party’s total customer base, to potentially cost the poker room $1 million. No matter how you spin it, that’s a lot of money.

In the end, people thought that players losing the money at the tables would be the biggest problem for Party, as it would be hard for the company to recover those funds. The thought was that if anyone tried to cash out the $400 immediately, or maybe after winning a few hands at the poker or blackjack tables, the funds would never actually leave Party Poker’s site. After all, Party still reviews all transactions and does not allow money to leave until the cash out has been approved. But, apparently, according to some conversations on the poker forums, many people did have their cash outs approved and currently have the money in their Neteller accounts. Oops.

The latest word, as of Thursday morning, is that Party Poker has e-mailed some (or all) of the players who successfully cashed out the “free” money, requesting that they call Party’s toll free number. Reasons for the call are unknown at this time, but speculation is that Party might ask for the money back. Time will tell on this one.

The bottom line is that, while depending on one’s definition, anyone who used the $400 may or may not have actually been “stealing” from Party Poker. But, any reasonable person should be able to realize that using the money, and to a greater extent, cashing it out, is unethical. Yes, Party Poker did put the funds in players’ accounts. Yes, the message on the account page was that players won a cruise for two, plus entry into the Party Poker Millions V tournament. But everyone (aside from maybe a handful of innocents who completely oblivious to yesterday’s craziness) knew that it was a computer mistake. Everyone knew that the money did not rightfully belong to them. Just as a car dealer should not be required to sell a $50,000 luxury car for $5,000 because they missed a zero in a newspaper ad, Party Poker should not be expected to have to fork over $400 to every person who decided to take advantage of the glitch. Yes, Party Poker is responsible for its mistakes, and is definitely going to have work to do to correct the problem, but just because the money was there for the taking does not mean it is everyone’s to take.

Maybe it was because Party Poker is the behemoth of the industry. Maybe it was because it is so easy to do over the internet, when people don’t have to look their victim in the eye. Maybe people had a problem with Party Poker, for some reason. In any case, Party Poker’s mistake was an unfortunate one, and those who decided to fleece the company of $400 need to take a closer look at their own morals.

But it sure was entertaining while it lasted.

Originally published January 12, 2006
 
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that is crazy...
i think if it were me i might have played some BJ...who knows
 

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It did actually happen. Know of several people who took advantage. I didn't as Partypoker is a cash cow for me, $400 is less than 1 buy-in for me.
 

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Party is taking the money back. Those who grabbed the $400 and then either cashed out (or tried to) or blew it are mostly the ones who are getting the emails. Some are seeing a $400 debit from their account; others are seeing their account locked with a polite message to call PayPro to "discuss a transaction." The estimate is that about 6000 people were dumb enough to try this. I can't speak for anyone else, but I figure that stealing is bad kharma for a gambler. There are huge threads on 2+2 where people who took this shot are trying to defend it. Pretty hilarious stuff.

Having your IP banned by Party is pretty close to the death sentence for an online poker player. I'm unhappy because one way or the other the acquarium just shrank by 6000.
 

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I looked on Google for this story and couldn't find it :icon_conf any idea where the story came from. :icon_conf

And I find it a bit odd if you click those links on the story that it is a affliate link that takes you to Party Poker.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmm.
 

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You can read about it in threads on twoplustwo.com, in the internet gambling forum.
 

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if he copied the article from an html page it will probably paste the html links with referrals etc as well

I dont think its allowed for me to post links to a poker forum but if you look at them you will probably find quite a few stories about this
 

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I would never think to try to cash in on something like this. However, with PP, I would've taken the money and sat at the quickest table and purposely lost it all. I had accumulated 10's of thousands of party points at their site and they sent a letter basically saying unless you re-up and play cash games, we will confiscate your points, even though you earned them by playing hundreds of hours at our site. I'm really pissed I missed the opportunity to stick it to these greedy pricks........:finger:
 

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