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Broncos' nemesis is the 3-4 defense


Posted on Tue, Jan. 17, 2006


BY FRANK SCHWAB
The Gazette

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. - The San Diego Chargers, Dallas Cowboys and New England Patriots have two things in common. They each shut down the Denver Broncos' running game, and they all use a 3-4 defensive alignment with three defensive linemen and four linebackers.

The bad news for the Broncos is the Pittsburgh Steelers, their opponent in Sunday's AFC Championship Game, also use a 3-4 defense. Most NFL teams run a 4-3 defense with four defensive linemen and three linebackers.

San Diego and New England were two of the four teams to hold Denver to less than 100 yards this season, including the playoffs. The Broncos also had less than 100 yards rushing against Miami when they abandoned the running game in the second half of a blowout, and against Baltimore, which used four defensive linemen and four linebackers for much of the game.

Denver needed overtime to crack 100 yards rushing against Dallas and its 3-4 defense on Thanksgiving. The Broncos had 89 rushing yards through four quarters. Ron Dayne broke a 55-yard run in overtime.

Three of the toughest games Denver had running the ball this season came against a 3-4 defense, but The Broncos don't think the 3-4 alignment itself is their problem.

"It doesn't hurt to have good players," right tackle George Foster said. "If you run a 3-4 with (lousy) sucky players, it's not going to work. Most teams that run it have good players."

Broncos Coach Mike Shanahan agreed with Foster. He said the teams that ran the 3-4 defense and shut down Denver's running game were tough to run against because of their talented personnel, not the 3-4 alignment.

However, Pittsburgh also has superior talent at defensive line and linebacker. The Steelers were third in the NFL in rushing defense during the regular season.

"When you get a good front seven, like Pittsburgh has and how they play, it can keep you off balance because they're very quick and very talented," Shanahan said.

Running back Mike Anderson said 3-4 defenses are difficult to run against because players have different responsibilities. In a 3-4 defense, linemen usually engage with the offensive lineman in front of them and hold their ground. In a 4-3 defense, defenders are usually responsible for penetrating a gap between linemen, and the Broncos are adept at finding a hole when they get out of position.

Typically one of the keys to a strong 3-4 defense is a big nose tackle who lines up over center. San Diego has Jamal Williams, New England has Vince Wilfork and Pittsburgh has Casey Hampton, all of whom weigh more than 325 pounds.

"They don't go anywhere," Anderson said of linemen in a 3-4 defense.

Running back Tatum Bell said teams that run 3-4 defenses are usually a little more unpredictable. On most plays at least one linebacker blitzes, and it's hard to figure where the blitzes will come from.

"It's more difficult," Bell said. "Somebody's coming every play and you don't know where they're coming from. It's tricky."

Ticket issues

The Broncos won't make any special request to their fans to dissuade them from selling tickets to Steelers fans this week. Steelers fans who travel well and are often a loud presence in opposing stadiums.

Two weeks ago Cincinnati coach Marvin Lewis said he hoped Bengals fans would not sell playoff tickets to Steelers fans. Before last week's Colts-Steelers playoff game at Indianapolis, the Colts sent an e-mail to fans signed by team president Bill Polian and coach Tony Dungy that asked fans to not sell tickets to Steelers fans.

"We trust our fans to come to the games, root, and not sell to the other teams," Broncos spokesman Jim Saccomano said.

The Broncos took one step to avoid being overrun by Steelers fans. Only fans in the Rocky Mountain region could buy tickets during the first hour of Sunday's public sale. The Broncos sold out of about 15,000 tickets in less than 30 minutes.
 

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Broncos' nemesis is the 3-4 defense


Posted on Tue, Jan. 17, 2006


BY FRANK SCHWAB
The Gazette

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. - The San Diego Chargers, Dallas Cowboys and New England Patriots have two things in common. They each shut down the Denver Broncos' running game, and they all use a 3-4 defensive alignment with three defensive linemen and four linebackers.

Uhhhhhh, make that THREE things in common.......none of those teams chalked up a win vs. Denver. 0-5 combined this year.

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Uhhhhhh, make that THREE things in common.......none of those teams chalked up a win vs. Denver. 0-5 combined this year.

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thank you for beating me to that. the SAME people who picked NE last week and are picking Pitt this week will pick either Seat/Carolina in 2 weeks against the Broncos and those people will pull a "hat trick" and be 0-3

the fact is denver was 14-3 this season and was 1 of the 3 best teams in football ALL SEASON LONG and know that 1 of those 3 teams are gone denver will be playing Feb 5 - and winning that one, too
 

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3rd to that....WTF

Winky, as a Carolina fan it troubles me that the public seems to pounding Carolina. Pains me to say this, but I think Seattle/Denver...thoughts?
 

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3rd to that....WTF

Winky, as a Carolina fan it troubles me that the public seems to pounding Carolina. Pains me to say this, but I think Seattle/Denver...thoughts?

something just doesn't smell right here

EVERYONE and his mother and everyone else in the family is POUNDING the panthers but i doubt the seahawks will be as dumb as da bears and you have to think they will 2B team smith and without foster make nick goings beat them

as i said - if the line gets to -3 i will be "forced" to take seattle here
 

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I just see this as a better coach, home field, and a QB who is underrated in Plummer. His mobility will kill the Steelers, and if he makes no costly mistakes, which the home field helps, Denver wins and covers IMO as well.

3-4 Defense stuff is funny IMO

Another thing overlooked...

"There was a play in last weeks game that is not getting alot of talk or attention going into this week and that was the play late in the 3rd or early 4th when BigBen reaggravated his thumb injury. This played a huge factor in the Steelers play calling in the 4th quarter, example of this. Cowher basically realized early in the 4th that the momentum was starting to swing to the Colts, on a drive early in the 4th twice he went for it on 4th down and one of those times was in his own end which is a no-no with most NFL coaches but Cowher realized this drive could very well decide if they win and he was pulling out all the stops. Then it came down to 3rd and 5 somewhere around the Colts 35 yard line, Cowher had already basically stated to his team this drive was important with his two earlier gambles but on this 3rd down play instead of passing the ball they ran it and I honestly believe the reason why was because of Bens thumb. If Ben was completely healthy Cowher has already shown the confidence in him to let him go ahead and pass in these instances but this time the pass didn't even seem like an option. Even earlier in the 4th his passes didn't have the same zip or accuaracy. I believe his thumb is alot worse than what came out after the game and I expect to see that pop up again this week and I wouldn't be surprised to see a few interceptions and a few bad passes coming from Ben"
 

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The article talks about 3-4 teams slowing down the Broncos run game - not beating them - therefore it has validity. It is possible to stop the run and still lose the game. No way will the Broncos be able to run wild vs the Steelers. No way will the Steelers run wild on the Broncs. Will come down to pass game vs pass game. Pressure on the QB will be (as usual) huge for both teams.
 

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The article talks about 3-4 teams slowing down the Broncos run game - not beating them - therefore it has validity. It is possible to stop the run and still lose the game. No way will the Broncos be able to run wild vs the Steelers. No way will the Steelers run wild on the Broncs. Will come down to pass game vs pass game. Pressure on the QB will be (as usual) huge for both teams.

The next step would then be to ask which team will give a better pass rush?
 

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this article should also mention the broncos were 4-0-1 or 3-0-2 ATS in those 5 games (push hosting SD and on turkey day @ dallass there were -2.5 out there for a long time before it went to -3)
 

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I just see this as a better coach, home field, and a QB who is underrated in Plummer. His mobility will kill the Steelers, and if he makes no costly mistakes, which the home field helps, Denver wins and covers IMO as well.

3-4 Defense stuff is funny IMO

Another thing overlooked...

"There was a play in last weeks game that is not getting alot of talk or attention going into this week and that was the play late in the 3rd or early 4th when BigBen reaggravated his thumb injury. This played a huge factor in the Steelers play calling in the 4th quarter, example of this. Cowher basically realized early in the 4th that the momentum was starting to swing to the Colts, on a drive early in the 4th twice he went for it on 4th down and one of those times was in his own end which is a no-no with most NFL coaches but Cowher realized this drive could very well decide if they win and he was pulling out all the stops. Then it came down to 3rd and 5 somewhere around the Colts 35 yard line, Cowher had already basically stated to his team this drive was important with his two earlier gambles but on this 3rd down play instead of passing the ball they ran it and I honestly believe the reason why was because of Bens thumb. If Ben was completely healthy Cowher has already shown the confidence in him to let him go ahead and pass in these instances but this time the pass didn't even seem like an option. Even earlier in the 4th his passes didn't have the same zip or accuaracy. I believe his thumb is alot worse than what came out after the game and I expect to see that pop up again this week and I wouldn't be surprised to see a few interceptions and a few bad passes coming from Ben"

I noticed that too Romo. I didn't know how serious it was at the time.
 

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Romanowski said:
I just see this as a better coach, home field, and a QB who is underrated in Plummer. His mobility will kill the Steelers, and if he makes no costly mistakes, which the home field helps, Denver wins and covers IMO as well.

3-4 Defense stuff is funny IMO

Another thing overlooked...

"There was a play in last weeks game that is not getting alot of talk or attention going into this week and that was the play late in the 3rd or early 4th when BigBen reaggravated his thumb injury. This played a huge factor in the Steelers play calling in the 4th quarter, example of this. Cowher basically realized early in the 4th that the momentum was starting to swing to the Colts, on a drive early in the 4th twice he went for it on 4th down and one of those times was in his own end which is a no-no with most NFL coaches but Cowher realized this drive could very well decide if they win and he was pulling out all the stops. Then it came down to 3rd and 5 somewhere around the Colts 35 yard line, Cowher had already basically stated to his team this drive was important with his two earlier gambles but on this 3rd down play instead of passing the ball they ran it and I honestly believe the reason why was because of Bens thumb. If Ben was completely healthy Cowher has already shown the confidence in him to let him go ahead and pass in these instances but this time the pass didn't even seem like an option. Even earlier in the 4th his passes didn't have the same zip or accuaracy. I believe his thumb is alot worse than what came out after the game and I expect to see that pop up again this week and I wouldn't be surprised to see a few interceptions and a few bad passes coming from Ben"

You may see some interceptions & a few bad passes from Roethlisberger, but it won't be because of thumb injury. His right arm was hyperextended and felt like it weighed 300 lbs and ached like Hell. It remained sore for a couple days, but will not be a factor in his performance this week. As for the thumb, it is fine. And even if it weren't, he has already demonstrated, very effectively, that the thumb injury, wasn't much to be concerned about. (View past stats). Just like Pitt needs to be concerned about containing Jake the Snake's scrambling abilities (as well as his ability to complete passes on the run), Denver should be concerned about the same thing regarding Bens ability to throw on the run. Pay careful attention to his completion percentage AFTER he is contacted. And, he has a cannon for an arm, allowing him to complete passes, many other QBs can not, while on the run. Find another reason to hang your hat on in this game. The thumb will not be a factor. These two teams are very evenly matched. IMO, this game will be decided on intangibles. Now if I can just figure out which ones will be most important, then I will know which side to be on.
 

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