Agreed, Betfair is the nuts. That is why I think one day they will come into the US market and cause a MAJOR shakeout. Matchbook and Mansion are just hitting the tip of the iceberg. Pinny and a few others might be fine, but others using -110 pricing are going to get smoked in time and probably have to fall at least in line with -105 pricing, if not better. The US market is so used to bargain vig, the rest of the world is not, so what they have done to soccer and horse betting has been revolutionary. In the US market we already have better pricing so they will eventually drive it to near zero margin to get the desired financial result.