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I just had breakfast at Barleys a Station Casino and they had Pitt - 4 1/2 and the over/under was 471/2 Just as I earlier mentioned... If you want theover or Pitt wager right now ! Pinnacle is the only book on the planet that still has Pitt - 3 1/2 - 109:103631605
 

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I just checked Oly and their line is -4 -110 I have no information on matchbbok
 

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Sorry; just used livelines for the Oly line. Must be a mixup. Matchbook is currently -3.5 -105 or +103 -4.
 

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VIP books have

Seattle +4½ -105
Pittsburgh -3½ -105

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mvbski said:
VIP books have

Seattle +4½ -105
Pittsburgh -3½ -105

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That true ? Doesn't make any sense to me ? How can that be ? I never heard of + 4 1/2 and - 3 1/2 with both lines being - 105
 

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ensign_lee said:
Sorry; just used livelines for the Oly line. Must be a mixup. Matchbook is currently -3.5 -105 or +103 -4.
At this point in the season, I will have my wagers at nothing but the most solid books like Oly, Pinnacle, Bet Cris, Hollywood etc. I am somewhat worried about a few failures after the Super Bowl is over ! The books will be rooting for a Seattle victory I feel quite certain. :lolBIG:
 

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Just a quick update. Pinny has moved to-4 -103 +4 -105 I don't think there are any - 3 1/2 left out there ... at least not at any book that I trust !
 

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RED EYE said:
Do you not have a account at Skybook ? 3 1/2 their
Skybook has Pitt at - 31/2 but vig is up to -115 Still the best out there. They are trying to stay at - 31/2 to keep the free point void on the - 3 1/2 and yet they don't want to give away the + 4 1/2 to Seahawks. I expect Skybook to try and stay at - 3 1/2 for that reason but for them to keep raising the Vig as the Pitt $$ keeps pouring in. JMHO
 

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Skybook has Pitt at - 31/2 but vig is up to -115 Still the best out there. They are trying to stay at - 31/2 to keep the free point void on the - 3 1/2 and yet they don't want to give away the + 4 1/2 to Seahawks. I expect Skybook to try and stay at - 3 1/2 for that reason but for them to keep raising the Vig as the Pitt $$ keeps pouring in. JMHO

It's not the best out there. Pinnacle has -3.5-112 right now.
 

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kermit16 said:
Skybook has Pitt at - 31/2 but vig is up to -115 Still the best out there. They are trying to stay at - 31/2 to keep the free point void on the - 3 1/2 and yet they don't want to give away the + 4 1/2 to Seahawks. I expect Skybook to try and stay at - 3 1/2 for that reason but for them to keep raising the Vig as the Pitt $$ keeps pouring in. JMHO
Not sure if you have to give us amatuers a reasoning on why Skybook is staying at 3 1/2.Thats not what this thread is about!! I was just posting to this thread that Pinny isn't the only shop on the Planet that is offering 3 1/2
 

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RED EYE said:
Not sure if you have to give us amatuers a reasoning on why Skybook is staying at 3 1/2.Thats not what this thread is about!! I was just posting to this thread that Pinny isn't the only shop on the Planet that is offering 3 1/2
Whenever the vig is higher than - 110..especially as high as - 115.. I don't consider it a clear - 3 1/2 anymore. Now that Pinny has fled the ship to -4 .... If I was a Pitt backer, I would be grabbing the - 3 1/2 - 115 quickly. My point is that the - 3 1/2 - 115 is now rare as Pinny has fled and now Skybook is going to get a lot of Pitt action. As to whether you and I are Amateurs or Pro's.... let the results be your guide. If there are any IRS agents out there monitoring this site... I am a big time loser and my picture is in Websters under LOSER !:lolBIG: :nopityA: :cryingcry
 

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D2bets said:
It's not the best out there. Pinnacle has -3.5-112 right now.
Unless you are getting a different line than I am, Pinny is at - 4 - 103 as of 20 seconds ago !
 

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I believe it was just a case of you forgetting to look at Skybook's #. If your going to report these facts, get the Top shops #'s out there that are actually at 3 1/2 and let them decide whether 3 1/2 -115 is a decent #.
 

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RED EYE said:
Not sure if you have to give us amatuers a reasoning on why Skybook is staying at 3 1/2.Thats not what this thread is about!! I was just posting to this thread that Pinny isn't the only shop on the Planet that is offering 3 1/2
Since I was the one that started this thread... I don't think you are the one to tell me what this thread is about or why I started it. I started this thread to alert Posters that the line is starting to move upwards here in Vegas and I was quite sure the direction on the off shores would follow. You will note that my first post showed Industry powerhouse Pinny offering - 3 1/2 at - 109.Since Pinny is now at -4 -103, my alert was correct. Also if you care to post another book like Skybook that still offers - 3 1/2...please give the whole story that the vig is - 115. :finger:
 

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kermit16 said:
I just had breakfast at Barleys a Station Casino and they had Pitt - 4 1/2 and the over/under was 471/2 Just as I earlier mentioned... If you want theover or Pitt wager right now ! Pinnacle is the only book on the planet that still has Pitt - 3 1/2 - 109:103631605
I'm not sure why your ducking the issue. Pinny wasn't the only Shop on the Planet offering - 3 1/2 like you state,or that if the juice is over -110 it doesn't count as a clear - 3 1/2 .If Posters are to read your thread they might start playing -4 instead of a - 3 1/2 that might be out their.If I start a thread ,I like my facts to be correct thats all. Not sure what you are objecting to. All you had to say was I forgot to check Skybook and we wouldn't be even having these Posts or discussion.
 

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Red Eye !
The reason I started the Post is once again to clearly state that the line is moving up... not down ! If anyone wants to find another book that still has a - 3 1/2 .. good for them but the simple fact remains that the line is starting to move up ! If you can't see that ... Have a nice day !
 

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kermit16 said:
Red Eye !
The reason I started the Post is once again to clearly state that the line is moving up... not down ! If anyone wants to find another book that still has a - 3 1/2 .. good for them but the simple fact remains that the line is starting to move up ! If you can't see that ... Have a nice day !
The problem with your original thread is your telling Posters to wager Pitt NOW because Pinny is the only Shop on the Planet at 3 1/2. Nobody is arguing which way the line might be moving, I'm just alerting Posters they can play it at Skybook at 3 1/2 before they put down their $$$ at 4 and maybe even avoid a push. Still can't see what your your objecting too. I guess you just can't see what i'm trying to alert the Posters too.
 

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