There is one Super Bowl that fell four that some old time bookies still talk about. SB XII (Jan. of 1979) ended Steelers 35-Cowboys 31. The game opened Steelers -2.5 and closed -4.5 or -5. The result was a bloodbath for Vegas books and locals all over the US.
Natrually today's volume is much higher so the bloodbath would be even bloddier if this week's game fell four.
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Natrually today's volume is much higher so the bloodbath would be even bloddier if this week's game fell four.
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The first Black Sunday was a joke, and this one would be also. Has anyone here bet the game at 3.5? It's still available at Skybook you know. The MONSTER majority of the money will come in on Sunday. If the line is still 4, what do YOU think happens? The 4.5's that were out there dried up in no time, so how much money do you think was put down at 4.5?
Besides, you don't mention what happens to the total. Since almost everyone takes parlays and teasers for the SB, if the total is a blowout one way or the other, it takes away all those pushes or wins. The only ones that could possibly make money would be the sharps, and I'm sure they aren't risking any serious money on a half point middle! 3.5 to 4.....4.5 to 4! Can't see that at all! So NO, there won't be a Black Sunday! There wasn't even one the first time around! Biggest lie since I won't cum in your mouth!
Besides, you don't mention what happens to the total. Since almost everyone takes parlays and teasers for the SB, if the total is a blowout one way or the other, it takes away all those pushes or wins. The only ones that could possibly make money would be the sharps, and I'm sure they aren't risking any serious money on a half point middle! 3.5 to 4.....4.5 to 4! Can't see that at all! So NO, there won't be a Black Sunday! There wasn't even one the first time around! Biggest lie since I won't cum in your mouth!
Clip Joint said:
Agree -3.5/ +5.5 isn't very good in football, 5 never hits, so it's still just the 4. Does it land once every 21 times ? Not confident enough this game will land 4, to do the middle at full juice, better off trying to forecast an NBA move. This game doesn't move any higher than 4.5, IMO. I'd do it for -105 each way, but I won't find it.
Props are where it's at.
It would be rough if that happened. But most bookmakers out there are obviously willing to take a chance. Even if it that happens, they will make money on all of the other bets and hopefully attract new customers who will just lost money on basketball later.
A few recent Super Bowls fell close to the number. Titans-Rams and Patriots-Packers. Also there was the 49ers-Chargers Super Bowl where the 49ers and Over both came in big for the public.
A few recent Super Bowls fell close to the number. Titans-Rams and Patriots-Packers. Also there was the 49ers-Chargers Super Bowl where the 49ers and Over both came in big for the public.
I was working way back when, the original Black Sunday occured. It was a bloodbath of epic proportions. Everything back in that day was handwritten. There were hardly any parlay cards, props or exotics. The bulk of the action came in on straights, parlays and teasers. The sharps pounded Landry and America's team. Quickly off of 2 1/2, through 3 up to 4. However many squares also got the 3 1/2, and parlayed it to the overs. If not they got 4. All of the teasers hit, as both sides won, and again, everyone had the over. Then the coup de grace on gameday, it peaks, and all of the sharps coming flying back with both fists buying all of the 5 and 4 1/2. I was in tight with some book managers back then. It took 3-6 months to get back even. They had almost no losing bets.
This number has done nothing, languished with a slight uptick on 4. They would push 90% of the action. If it crosses 4 and gets to 4 1/2, and gets hit hard back before the game, that would be bad. It all depends on what happens the next week. There might not even be a scenario to be that Black. Plus they do have a ton of card action, props, exotics all at tremendous vig, ties lose, you name it. That stuff just earns no matter what. I think that Black Sunday was a one time event, when you could steam a weak number through key numbers and buyback. Just do not see that any more. The internet and offshore has changed that.
Best Wishes...OF
This number has done nothing, languished with a slight uptick on 4. They would push 90% of the action. If it crosses 4 and gets to 4 1/2, and gets hit hard back before the game, that would be bad. It all depends on what happens the next week. There might not even be a scenario to be that Black. Plus they do have a ton of card action, props, exotics all at tremendous vig, ties lose, you name it. That stuff just earns no matter what. I think that Black Sunday was a one time event, when you could steam a weak number through key numbers and buyback. Just do not see that any more. The internet and offshore has changed that.
Best Wishes...OF
It would not be black sunday at all. In Vegas the line has been Pitt -4 to 4½ all week and since the line will not go down to -3½ I fail to see the black sunday scenario. The only place that I know of that would get hurt would be Pinnacle as they stood firm on -3½ longer than anyone else. Pinnacle is now at -4.
Never say never ! There were 6 games this year in the regilar season where the final score landed exactly on 5. All things considered... that is quite remote. However if you asked me if I would prefer + 41/2 or + 5 ... give me the +5 ... a no brainer. Also remember that as the line climbs to + 5 or + 5 1/2 the money line is going up also and it is also easier and cheaper to buy a +6 which is a very important number. Seattle backers should wait IMHODougJ said:
Although I tend to agree with you that perhaps the line should be closer to-3 than - 6, the simple fact is that Pitt is the People's team and Seatle has very little following relatively speaking on a National basis. The public will bet their heart with their hard earned $$ and that is why this line will never see - 3 1/2 again....at least not at the -110 vig. If anyone finds a cheap - 3 1/2 out there and wants Pitt... grab it !RED EYE said:
stuckinvegas said:
I'm aware that this is completely off-topic and not relevant to this thread at all...but you should expect these kinds of posts from me by now.
But yeah...best lie EVER. That was classic. Why no one else noticed this is beyond me. Best part of the post, hands down.
Alright I'm done. Continue your discussion.
