Getting froze out at IIS, anyone else???

OMNIVOROUS FROG · Feb 2, 2006

This is on topic as it gets. 3 straight times last night I tried to get down at IIS. I select the bet, it is not moving on the screen. I send it and it goes into pause mode, considering I utilize fiber optic connection speed I can detect a pause pretty easy. Then it comes back, the line has changed, once a full point worse, and moves on the screen. Three straight times. It was the only move on the screen, on the game. I need an odds calculator to figure out if some other bettor, is betting the same thing I am, during one screen to the next, 3 times in a row. I would consider this a Grade A beef. Is this something I can bring to the forum?

Best Wishes...OF :icon_conf

wilheim · Feb 2, 2006

Frog

I will send a link to this thread to IIS management for comment. To be honest I am not sure what can be done about getting shut out for a number.

If you are inferring that IIS is targeting you, I have to say bullshit. Maybe that is not what you mean by Grade A beef, I'm not sure from your post.

wil..

D2bets · Feb 2, 2006

Skybook has done same to me (and many) for a long time. IIS and Skybook are the same. No surprise here. They are looking at your play and then deciding whether they want it. If they don't, they deny and move the number. This has been complained about numerous times here and Skybook always hems and haws and manages for it to go away.

C'est la vis.

OMNIVOROUS FROG · Feb 2, 2006

Normally it is just once in awhile, I guess Manual was really scared last night. Probably just bs like wil says. Thanks D2.

Best Wishes...OF :toast:

Classic bait and switch.

OMNIVOROUS FROG · Feb 2, 2006

Gotta roll, things to do. Take Pride tonight.

Best Wishes...OF :103631605

CoachLT · Feb 2, 2006

OMNIVOROUS FROG said:
This is on topic as it gets. 3 straight times last night I tried to get down at IIS. I select the bet, it is not moving on the screen. I send it and it goes into pause mode, considering I utilize fiber optic connection speed I can detect a pause pretty easy. Then it comes back, the line has changed, once a full point worse, and moves on the screen. Three straight times. It was the only move on the screen, on the game. I need an odds calculator to figure out if some other bettor, is betting the same thing I am, during one screen to the next, 3 times in a row. I would consider this a Grade A beef. Is this something I can bring to the forum?

Best Wishes...OF

Wil. I have quit both Skybook and IIS for the exact same thing. This has happened in the dead of night and it just seems to be more than an isolated occurance. There are just too many good books out there that you don't have to put up with that. I thought maybe it was just me but maybe not. LT

wilheim · Feb 2, 2006

Anyone who has concerns that they are getting shut out unfairly please call Keith at Skybook.

Call 1-888-skybook and ask for Keith Anderson.

Thanks, wil...

D2bets · Feb 2, 2006

Wil, not to rock the boat and no offense to you, but this is once again an attempt by Skybook to make this go private and go away.

Why can't Skybook directly address here what their policy is on this. Do they use a delay to view a customer's play and then deny confirmation and move the line after viewing the customer's selected play?

A pretty simple yes or no really.

Santo · Feb 2, 2006

If they're moving it a full point, and the rest of the screen hasn't moved, aren't they giving you a nice middle oppetunity on the other side? -107 v -105 is 12c, so a full point move would be within the middle range..

wilheim · Feb 2, 2006

D2, I understand your post, perhaps you are correct. I think the problem is more one of players chasing steam rather than betting their own stuff. Moves happen at any time of day including the middle of the night and steam chasers are going to run into line moves, not only at IIS but everywhere. I think Keith would like to talk one on one with players having issues to explain this to them personally.

Do they really use a delay for specific players? Personally I doubt it. I have been in some big offices and generally steam games will get held up for all players. I really don't know what kind of plays Frog or Gator were making so I cannot comment on their cases specifically.

I will be totally honest - I do not know exactly how the software works at IIS or Sky and what happens on the stage if a limit bet is entered online.

wil..

Santo · Feb 2, 2006

I'm fairly sure Cascade have an approval process... it's noticeable the difference between submitting a bet now and when I first joined, there's a discernable pause that at first I mistook for an error on their side and ended up double betting as I closed and resubmitted...

Not yet run into this at skybook/iis however

D2bets · Feb 2, 2006

wilheim said:
D2, I understand your post, perhaps you are correct. I think the problem is more one of players chasing steam rather than betting their own stuff. Moves happen at any time of day including the middle of the night and steam chasers are going to run into line moves, not only at IIS but everywhere. I think Keith would like to talk one on one with players having issues to explain this to them personally.

Do they really use a delay for specific players? Personally I doubt it. I have been in some big offices and generally steam games will get held up for all players. I really don't know what kind of plays Frog or Gator were making so I cannot comment on their cases specifically.

I will be totally honest - I do not know exactly how the software works at IIS or Sky and what happens on the stage if a limit bet is entered online.

wil..

wil, you shouldn't feel obligated to speculate or defend. My suggestion was for Skybook itself to come in here and set everyone straight on what their policy exactly is on this. This seems to come up every couple months or so and will continue to come up unless they address it. I know Skybook and their reps have posted here before so why not for the benefit of current and future players set the record straight on what is really happening.

D2bets · Feb 2, 2006

Santo said:
I'm fairly sure Cascade have an approval process... it's noticeable the difference between submitting a bet now and when I first joined, there's a discernable pause that at first I mistook for an error on their side and ended up double betting as I closed and resubmitted...

Not yet run into this at skybook/iis however

Santo, at Cascade, how long is the delay between hitting submit and getting an approval?

Santo · Feb 2, 2006

it varies, but usually 3-5 seconds, I submit, then get a blank screen, then it comes back accepted. I've only actually had one declined so far, but surely just a matter of time before I get more

assassin · Feb 2, 2006

The only time it ever happened to me at Skybook was when I was attempting to scalp a number against Pinny (using the 1/2 point). IS that "steam", maybe. Not saying this is what happened to you guys, but would be curious if it was.

later.

CoachLT · Feb 2, 2006

Santo said:
it varies, but usually 3-5 seconds, I submit, then get a blank screen, then it comes back accepted. I've only actually had one declined so far, but surely just a matter of time before I get more

Santo, I have had delays like you have had. But, I have yet to have a line move notice. They have ALL been confirmed. :103631605

LT

OMNIVOROUS FROG · Feb 2, 2006

None were steam, as the number would be moving else before and after. I know the difference between steam and my plays. What they were was stale numbers. And when I woke them up they just froze and changed it before approval screen. It is a manual override or approval. It is a bait and switch. It any business not a good practice. It is difficult to describe how frustrating it is to miss, but when you do you do. The screen let's you know. For me to select a play, during slow times, and have it move on the screen after I select and send, but before final approval screen comes is bullshit. You are right there. But 3 for 3? Why don't they just ask me to leave. Maybe they do it because no one says anything about it.

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