Off pass int in endzone....4 points
Ben gift TD didn't cross lne....4 points
Jackson hit pylon no call TD....7 points
Holding call negating pass to the 3yl....7 points
44 yard phantom block in the back...around 3 points
Other random calls and no calls....around 3 points
Winning 21-10 when you should have lost 34-17....PRICELESS.
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Ben gift TD didn't cross lne....4 points
Jackson hit pylon no call TD....7 points
Holding call negating pass to the 3yl....7 points
44 yard phantom block in the back...around 3 points
Other random calls and no calls....around 3 points
Winning 21-10 when you should have lost 34-17....PRICELESS.
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D2bets said:Off pass int in endzone....4 points
Ben gift TD didn't cross lne....4 points
Jackson hit pylon no call TD....7 points
Holding call negating pass to the 3yl....7 points
44 yard phantom block in the back...around 3 points
Other random calls and no calls....around 3 points
Winning 21-10 when you should have lost 34-17....PRICELESS.
Can you say EXAGGERATION?
I love how Ben's TD is a gift, (which I thought he was in by the way but lets say he wasnt for arguments sake), and you assume he cant sneak it in next play from a half inch out, but Seattles ball on the 2 yard line, phantom blocks in the back, etc are all automatic TD's and FGs.
Now THATS priceless reasoning.
Ben Roth's QB rating for the game = 22. WORST ever for a winning Super Bowl QB.
Steelers lose turnovers 2 to 1 - how many times do you see the team with more TO's win, much less win by 10+ points?
Pitt allows nearly 400 yards of offense, are outgained (plus 70+ yards on 1 play) , Seattle has 20 first downs, wins time of possession, holds Pitt without a 1st down until the 2nd quarter etc... yet somehow Pittsburgh wins by 11.
Yea, officials had no impact on this game.
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Steelers lose turnovers 2 to 1 - how many times do you see the team with more TO's win, much less win by 10+ points?
Pitt allows nearly 400 yards of offense, are outgained (plus 70+ yards on 1 play) , Seattle has 20 first downs, wins time of possession, holds Pitt without a 1st down until the 2nd quarter etc... yet somehow Pittsburgh wins by 11.
Yea, officials had no impact on this game.
:missingte
Boxslayer32 said:
I would agree with that 90% of the time but it would have been 4th down if they would have correctly called him short at the 4 inch line. Although the chances of Pitt scoring on the next play are better than 50/50 you and I both know that 4 and goal anywhere on the field is no sure thing no matter how close it is.
CHOPTALK said:
You are an outstanding baseball capper, but I didnt know you had x-ray vision, too.
Come on Chop, the angle of that instant replay was at least 10 degrees off and gave no clear evidence of whether he was in or out. There was no true goalline cam.
I feel the tip of the ball crossed the front tip of the goalline in mid-air from that view, then his arm got hit and pushed back and when he landed the ball was clearly nowhere close to crossing the line. But I can't say that for certain, and nobody can, because there was no true angle in perfect alignment with the goalline.
4th and goal is no sure thing at all. But from 1-2 inches out in the Super Bowl, the way Pitt was having trouble moving the ball, they were definitely going for it, and they were most likely sneaking it. Stopping a QB sneak, especially that of the size of Roethisberger with his running ability, from 2 inches out is not a very good success rate. But we're back speculating again.
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Journeyman said:
Fair enough. But how many things could they have done better to win the game?
People always talk about "strength of schedule", home field advantage, "battle tested", etc. Do we just throw those words out there or do they hold any weight?
Seattle had an inability to stop Pittsburgh when they had to. They got to the goalline because of Seattle's secondary, a concern for them going into the game. They couldnt stop Pitt at the end of the game when they knew they were running and they had to save time. They werent prepared for their gimmick play, which they run almost every game. They don't have gamebreakers on offense, and it hurt them tonight because they cant make big plays like Pitt can. Pitt doesnt need to play great on offense to win games, because they get the big plays even when they are struggling. When Pitt fires on all cylinders offensively, they are tough. Seattle's offense was firing on all cylinders, but they lack big play ability. Hasselbeck played the game of his life, while Roethlisberger played poorly, and they still won by doubles. The 9 yard completions were cute, but they needed big plays. Seattle consistently got held to less than 20 poins when playing a good defense during the regular season, and that was the case again tonight. They sustain drives, but they cant make big plays against good teams. They had too many dropped passes from their TE. Their special teams, field goal kicking and punting, were absolutely terrible. Their clock management, and game management in crunch time at the end of the 1st and 2nd halves were even worse. Their turnover happened at the worst possible time. They gave Pittsburgh momentum, and of all teams in the NFL, you dont give the Steelers momentum because they feed off of it better than anyone this year.
The point of my rant is, a lot of cappers took some of the things above into account when they capped the game. Seattle didnt play up to par, despite some of the shady calls, and they had their chances to stay in the game, pin Pittsburgh deep with a decent punt or two, get the ball back, extend a lead with a FG, cut into a lead with a FG, or cash in with some big plays and they didnt execute.
Not trying to be "against you", just defending some of the people who did cap Pittsburgh, and are having their efforts diminished because of referree conspiracies.
List of things Seattle could have done if they wanted to win this game:
-Not allow the longest play in the history of the super bowl (takes away 7 points)
-Stop Pitt on 3rd and 28 (takes away 7 points)
-Not make several blatant holding penalties (one or two were questionable, the rest-blatant)
-Don't throw an interception when in scoring position (Yes, I know Pitt did this also)
-Don't drop so many passes
-Don't miss two field goals
-Don't punt the ball into the endzone three times (once they had an easy chance to down it inside the 5)
-Don't fall for a trick play that they should have known was coming at some point during the game
Pitt didn't play well at all but they did make 2 very big plays to win the Super Bowl
-Not allow the longest play in the history of the super bowl (takes away 7 points)
-Stop Pitt on 3rd and 28 (takes away 7 points)
-Not make several blatant holding penalties (one or two were questionable, the rest-blatant)
-Don't throw an interception when in scoring position (Yes, I know Pitt did this also)
-Don't drop so many passes
-Don't miss two field goals
-Don't punt the ball into the endzone three times (once they had an easy chance to down it inside the 5)
-Don't fall for a trick play that they should have known was coming at some point during the game
Pitt didn't play well at all but they did make 2 very big plays to win the Super Bowl
