Best pitcher ever

whalewager · Feb 28, 2006

Dizzy Dean

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CHRISG612 · Feb 28, 2006

Bill "Spaceman" Lee

whalewager · Feb 28, 2006

good un

CHOPTALK · Feb 28, 2006

Roger Cleamens

CHOPTALK · Feb 28, 2006

By far

camy · Feb 28, 2006

Saw him when he first came up and still shake my head every time I see this mutant on the mound. I believe if he wanted to hang around baseball and try his luck in the bullpen, he could pitch effectively into his fifties. Roger Clemens.

JimmyHoffa · Mar 1, 2006

Koufax, period.

QuickLearner · Mar 1, 2006

Bob Gibson

blueedwards · Mar 1, 2006

hard to argue against koufax or gibson. i personally think that greg maddux has to be on the list. the stretch he had in the 1990's when everyone was on steroids and ballparks were getting smaller, was unreal. his era was so much lower than the league average, it was sick. and, he is not a power pitcher which makes it even more impressive.

ChrisParadise · Mar 1, 2006

hard for me to talk about pitchers i never saw live, so ill go with modern era ones.

best season - 1985 dwight gooden
best 5 yr span - maddux
best career - clemens, ryan
most filthy - pedro in 2000

QuickLearner · Mar 1, 2006

Chris Paradise said:
hard for me to talk about pitchers i never saw live, so ill go with modern era ones.

best season - 1985 dwight gooden
best 5 yr span - maddux
best career - clemens, ryan
most filthy - pedro in 2000

It's all a matter of perspective. When I was growing up the "modern era" was anything after World War 2! I sometimes wish I had been able to see Cy Young pitch. But then I remember that I would be dead.

TheAce · Mar 1, 2006

why ask??? just one best pitcher of all-time...i don't know how you can figure that one out....there's way too many.

koufax
gibson
clemens
carlton
maddux
pedro
seaver
palmer
drysdale
sutton

TheAce · Mar 1, 2006

QuickLearner said:
It's all a matter of perspective. When I was growing up the "modern era" was anything after World War 2! I sometimes wish I had been able to see Cy Young pitch. But then I remember that I would be dead.

i'm assuming you're young...best season denny mcclain...1968 also ron guidry

ChrisParadise · Mar 1, 2006

ill give ya that. statistically mclain was crazy in 68. but I never saw him pitch so he dont count to my personal skewed opinion , im biased! how high was the mound in 68? what kind of pitches did he have ? ill always be partial to gooden for several reasons that dont show up in the numbers. and i think in a perfect world he could have done that for years unlike some of the 1 yr wonders in the past 20 yrs like scott,saberhagen,cone,etc.

but yeah,ill agree, mclain in 68 was most dominant season on paper

YourAllAmerican · Mar 1, 2006

Excellent discussion. I'll list a few pitchers I feel are/were the best given a certain setting:

Best pitcher if I had to win one pressure game: Bob Gibson

Most unhittable on his best day: Nolan Ryan

Best over a long career: Roger Clemens (could also make a strong case for Warren Spahn)

Best one-inning bullpen pitcher: Dennis Eckersley

Most dominating end-of-season/post-season: Mike Scott, 1986

ChrisParadise · Mar 1, 2006

billy wagner at his peak 99 was pretty unhittable and a great 1 inning closer. eck cost me money a few times and i hold grudges

ryan is for sure the one id most like to watch pitch at the ballpark just to hear the mitt pop

jademan · Mar 1, 2006

The Ace said:
i'm assuming you're young...best season denny mcclain...1968 also ron guidry

Remember Fernando Venezuela? I read that he was still pitching in the mexican leagues as of last year :103631605

greatest trio - Oakland '72 '73 '74 Vida Blue, Catfish hunter, Rollie Fingers

Railbird · Mar 1, 2006

Roger Clemens period

ChrisParadise · Mar 1, 2006

oh yeah, most dominating end of season/postseason would have to be orel hershiser in 88

YourAllAmerican · Mar 1, 2006

Oh, man, I had forgotten about Hershiser in '88. He was something else. That'd be a close call for me.

Nolan Ryan was the most fun I've ever seen live, because every time he took the mound there was always the thought in your mind that you might see one of the most amazing performances ever.

I'll also nominate Ryan for title of "Best Ass-Kicking of a Young Third Baseman" for him taking Robin Ventura to school back in '93.

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