?? for The FishHead or any Florida resident

I find this very hard to believe...but you tell me.

This week I overheard a woman (from Florida she said) saying that Tampa and Orlando had Casinos just like Vegas. Since it was in a public setting...I said to her...."you're talking about the Indian Casinos which don't have all the regular table games...right". She said .."they've got all the games". I said "CRAPS TOO".. She said "yep, just like Vegas".

End of my conversation.

Now if she was talking about Biloxi, Mississippi; I wouldn't have said a word as I know they have casinos....but Tampa/Orlando?

The HARD ROCK has LIVE poker and slot machines ONLY.

The only table games in the TAMPA area are the various casino ships/boats.

I do believe they are lobbying to bring BJ/CRAPS to the Hard Rock though..........5teamparlay would know more on this.

aint got shit in florida...besides really low limit poker and slot machines...oh.......and....ah.....BINGO!...THAT'S WHY I MOVED TO VEGAS

Fishhead said:

The HARD ROCK has LIVE poker and slot machines ONLY.

The only table games in the TAMPA area are the various casino ships/boats.

I do believe they are lobbying to bring BJ/CRAPS to the Hard Rock though..........5teamparlay would know more on this.

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Fish is right on here. They tore down the old Sheraton Hotel and the old bingo hall and built the Hard Rock. It's called a casino and it looks like a casino, but it ain't no casino. I had a discussion just last night with a neighbor who thought there were table games at the "new" casino. No dice.....literally. 5Team is the subject matter expert here for sure.

I will be working the POKER tables at the Hard Rock at 7PM tonight. We have come a long way as far as tournament action goes in past year, but that is it, and the Poker isn't even full blown Poker as well. It is all 1-2 and 2-2 structured Poker with a steep rake. IT is still very far from a real vegas style casino. Expect a minimum of a 3 hour wait to play Hold 'em on a weekend night.

I previously worked over 10 years on the DICE tables in the Midwest.

I will update here if there are any changes in FLORIDA GAMING, full gaming would be absolutely crazy here, Tampa HRC is less than an hour all expressway from all the Orlando Attractions and the whole west coast of FL is full of people with nothing but time and money on their hand.

That lady was mistaken, I get several people in a week walking through the 50 table poker room looking for the blackjack tables.

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I find this very hard to believe...but you tell me.

This week I overheard a woman (from Florida she said) saying that Tampa and Orlando had Casinos just like Vegas. Since it was in a public setting...I said to her...."you're talking about the Indian Casinos which don't have all the regular table games...right". She said .."they've got all the games". I said "CRAPS TOO".. She said "yep, just like Vegas".

End of my conversation.

Now if she was talking about Biloxi, Mississippi; I wouldn't have said a word as I know they have casinos....but Tampa/Orlando?

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hmmm.. a woman who has no idea what she is talking about ..

imagine that !!!

if you liked the olympic curling, you will love some of the shuffleboard facilities we have down here. some of us old timers love to play and wager on shuffleboard as well as we do on our golf game and poker hands.

World Number One said:

hmmm.. a woman who has no idea what she is talking about ..

imagine that !!!

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It was SOOOO Funny so listen to her. She came into one of the OTB's in Virginia and was asking somebody...."why there were no dogs to bet on?... She said....."what about jai-li"? (90% here would not even know what Jai-Lie is) LOL. The other woman was telling her---Just horses. She said... "Damm, I miss Florida.....we've got it all there " And then she proceeded to talk about the casinos in Tampa and Orlando. I listened to her ramble on about 10 minutes or so and then asked her.....

What a joke. I was about 99% sure she was full of it! That has since become 100%.

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The unveiling of slot machines in Broward County may be just weeks away, but the South Florida gambling industry is already looking at ways to expand.

Pari-mutuels want Miami-Dade County voters to reconsider allowing slots. They will push the Legislature to let Broward racetrack casinos have an unlimited number of machines at a lower tax rate. They want restrictions on card rooms lifted, allowing high stakes poker.
About 250 racetrack executives, casino operators and gambling vendors converged Tuesday at the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino to discuss the industry's future as part of the second annual Florida Gaming Summit. The conference featured panel discussions involving national gambling experts and representatives from Broward's four pari-mutuels.

The event's timing coincided with Gulfstream Park in Hallandale Beach and Mardi Gras Racetrack & Gaming Center, formerly Hollywood Greyhound Track, being just days away from getting their first shipments of slot machines. Neither has announced an opening date.

It has been almost two years since Florida voters approved allowing residents in Broward and Miami-Dade to decide if they wanted slots at pari-mutuels. In March 2005, Broward approved the measure, but it was rejected in Miami-Dade. Since then, the Legislature hammered out slots regulations and the pari-mutuels have had to go through the licensing process.

Miami-Dade's pari-mutuels will attempt to get voters to reconsider slots in an election sometime between March 2007 and November 2008, said Izzy Havenick, director of public affairs for Flagler Dog Track in Miami. He urged the state's gambling interests to work more closely together and end infighting that has historically plagued the industry.

"Florida's overall gaming industry should be much more politically powerful," said Havenick, whose late father spearheaded the slots movement. "It should be, in fact, virtually unstoppable."

State Sen. Steve Geller, D-Hallandale Beach, said he plans to propose a bill at the upcoming legislative session that will lift the limits on the number of machines at Broward's racetrack casinos. The racinos currently can have up to 1,500 slot machines.

He said the state tax rate on slots proceeds -- 50 percent -- is too high and was set by lawmakers and an anti-gambling governor who wanted to make the taxes so onerous it would set up the racinos for failure. Geller, president of the National Council of Legislators from Gaming States, said he wants the Legislature to address the tax rate, too.

With the tax money directed to Florida's schools, the state has projected $209 million going to education annually with the maximum number of slots operational.

Allan Solomon, executive vice president of Pompano Park's parent company, said he would like to see restrictions lifted on the pari-mutuels' card rooms, allowing them to operate more hours with bigger stakes.

In reacting to comments at the conference, a spokesman for the anti-gambling group No Casinos said he's not surprised the pari-mutuels want another Miami-Dade vote.

"As they start to stir, we'll stir back and go back to Miami-Dade and say the same things we said before," said Paul Seago of the Orlando-based group. "I think it will take a while to really see how bad the industry is for Broward County and that will be the best argument against having these things come in."

The gaming summit, a two-day event, wrapped up late Tuesday afternoon. The conference is dedicated to examining the state of legalized gambling in Florida and potential for growth, according to event organizers.
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went to the hardrock when I was visiting my family in Orlando in june...hung with fish there, played poker and 5team is right it is not a very bet heavy poker room some bum bought in for 10$!! ....


my dad was like yeah lets go to the hardrock as he liked to play the Slots


he failed to tell me there are ONLY slots there ...I asked a cashier where the BJ tables where I was wondering for a min. why she was laughing at me

Dante said:

went to the hardrock when I was visiting my family in Orlando in june...hung with fish there, played poker and 5team is right it is not a very bet heavy poker room some bum bought in for 10$!! ....


my dad was like yeah lets go to the hardrock as he liked to play the Slots


he failed to tell me there are ONLY slots there ...I asked a cashier where the BJ tables where I was wondering for a min. why she was laughing at me

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I would be in my glory if they had BJ tables at the Hard Rock......even more so if they had "switch"........come down for another visit Dante:toast:

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I would be in my glory if they had BJ tables at the Hard Rock......even more so if they had "switch"........come down for another visit Dante:toast:

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I hear you there billsey, you are the QUEEN of Blackjack switch

I will try but at least there is RX Bash 2007 i plan to stay more days next year

you and fisher are fun to hang with....:toast:

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Blackjack plans on hold

By Steve Huettel, Times Staff Writer

Published Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:08 PM
<HR noShade SIZE=1>Gamblers at Tampa's Seminole Hard Rock Casino won't double down any time soon.
Seminole Tribe of Florida gaming officials targeted the Tampa casino this summer as its second location for blackjack and other new card games by year's end, with as many as 1,000 additional jobs.
But plans now are on hold for expanding games beyond the Seminole Hard Rock in Hollywood, which in June began dealing Florida's only legal "banked" card games in which gamblers play against the house.
"There's no date or decision yet," said Gary Bitner, spokesman for the tribe. "It's still subject to what happens politically and legally."
The Florida Supreme Court in July threw out a compact signed by the tribe and Gov. Charlie Crist that let the Seminoles operate Las Vegas-style slot machines and casino card games in return for paying the state at least $100-million annually.
The court ruled that Crist overstepped his constitutional authority by letting the tribe offer card games that are illegal elsewhere in the state.
Barry Richard, attorney for the Seminoles, says the tribe still has a compact recognized by the federal government and intends to continue the new games. The state lacks authority to stop it because the tribe is a sovereign nation.
Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is asking the National Indian Gaming Commission to shut down the new slots and card games, called Class III gaming, until the state approves a valid compact with the Seminoles.
"The tribe has brazenly continued its illegal Class III gaming based on its belief that there will be no meaningful federal enforcement actions," he wrote in a letter Tuesday to Penny J. Coleman, the commission's acting general counsel.
Seminole officials have asked the commission to hold off until they can try to hammer out a compact with legislative leaders.
"It sits now in the hands of the Florida Legislature,'' said attorney Chris Kise, who represented Crist in the Supreme Court case.
Before the court decision, Seminole officials said the tribe would hire 3,650 employees to run the card games. Tampa's Hard Rock alone would get 800 to 1,000 new workers above the current 2,200 to operate 70 to 100 tables.
The card games have brought nearly 1,000 new hires, mostly in Hollywood, said Bitner, the tribe spokesman.
Gamblers had heard rumors of the delay but couldn't get employees to talk.
"It's a shame," said Jeanne Neal, who makes the 90-minute drive to the casino from Dunnellon at least once a week. "I like to play pai gow poker … and would go less to Vegas if they had it. But by not having it here won't keep people from gambling."

Black Bart said:

Fish is right on here. They tore down the old Sheraton Hotel and the old bingo hall and built the Hard Rock. It's called a casino and it looks like a casino, but it ain't no casino. I had a discussion just last night with a neighbor who thought there were table games at the "new" casino. No dice.....literally. 5Team is the subject matter expert here for sure.

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No dice.....literally.

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Good one Bart.