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This is NOT good news, AT ALL. We have to fight this thing hard you guys.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060315/..._gambling_dc_2

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. House committee on Wednesday approved a bill aimed at stamping out the $12 billion Internet gambling industry by stopping businesses from accepting credit cards and other forms of payment.

The bill, cleared by voice vote in the House Financial Services Committee, would prohibit a gambling business from accepting credit cards, checks, wire transfers and electronic funds transfers in illegal gambling transactions.

Unlawful gambling, under the legislation, would include placing bets on online poker sites, for example, and any other online wager made or received in a place where such a bet is illegal under federal or state law.

By making it illegal to accept payments from people who live where federal or state law prohibits wagering, the legislation would impact offshore gambling Web sites used by many Americans to place bets.

The legislation carves out some exceptions, including wagering on horse races, governed under another U.S. law, and fantasy sports.

The bill now moves to the House floor for consideration.

Major professional sports organizations supported the legislation, including the National Football League and Major League Baseball, saying in a joint statement that sports betting "threatens the integrity of our respective sports."

But Massachusetts Democratic Rep. Barney Frank (news, bio, voting record), the top Democrat on the House committee, opposed the bill. He said Congress should not seek to control how adults spend their money just because some lawmakers oppose gambling.

"Adults are entitled to do with their money what they want to do," he said.

A group called the Poker Players Alliance opposed the legislation as well.

"It is disingenuous to oppose Internet gambling and then write a bill that makes select forms of online gambling legal," said Michael Bolcerek, president of the group.

U.S. efforts to outlaw Internet gambling also have been opposed by the Caribbean state of Antigua, which has been trying to build up its Internet gambling industry as a way to make up for sharply declining tourism revenue.
 

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isnt neteller located in canada ?

money goes from my bank to a canadian based payment business to an offshore book . and then back again .

how can our govt. stop that process ?
 

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I worked on the hill for 5 years and am now over on the "dark side" (Lobbyist). This bill will never become law.....mark my words.
 

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"Adults are entitled to do with their money what they want to do," he said.

Not in the "land of the free" they aren't.......
 

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They moved to the Isle of Man.


World Number One said:
isnt neteller located in canada ?

money goes from my bank to a canadian based payment business to an offshore book . and then back again .

how can our govt. stop that process ?
 

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ok. even still ?

will neteller give in to the u.s. govt ?

does the u.s. control the isle of man ?
 

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usmcmp said:
I worked on the hill for 5 years and am now over on the "dark side" (Lobbyist). This bill will never become law.....mark my words.


i feel the same way......
 

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World Number One said:
ok. even still ?

will neteller give in to the u.s. govt ?

does the u.s. control the isle of man ?

Neteller will have one of two choices:

1. Thumb their nose at the US govt and continue to try and do business. The problem is that your BANK will not do eft's with them, and if you cash checks from them you are a criminal. Neteller all but becomes useless with no help from your bank.

2. Comply with US law. They already have done this in Maryland. Neteller does not allow residents of Maryland because according to Maryland law they would need to register in the state of Maryland - and then be applicable to US laws. This is a precedent in my opinion. I am not sure why Neteller would choose to follow US law in the case of Maryland but not in the case of the Federal Govt.

Either way - things change drastically.
 

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IMO this is still a ways off. They are going to have their hands full "IF" it does pass getting the banks to agree.
RobFunk said:
This is NOT good news, AT ALL. We have to fight this thing hard you guys.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060315/..._gambling_dc_2

2 hours, 29 minutes ago


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. House committee on Wednesday approved a bill aimed at stamping out the $12 billion Internet gambling industry by stopping businesses from accepting credit cards and other forms of payment.

The bill, cleared by voice vote in the House Financial Services Committee, would prohibit a gambling business from accepting credit cards, checks, wire transfers and electronic funds transfers in illegal gambling transactions.

Unlawful gambling, under the legislation, would include placing bets on online poker sites, for example, and any other online wager made or received in a place where such a bet is illegal under federal or state law.

By making it illegal to accept payments from people who live where federal or state law prohibits wagering, the legislation would impact offshore gambling Web sites used by many Americans to place bets.

The legislation carves out some exceptions, including wagering on horse races, governed under another U.S. law, and fantasy sports.

The bill now moves to the House floor for consideration.

Major professional sports organizations supported the legislation, including the National Football League and Major League Baseball, saying in a joint statement that sports betting "threatens the integrity of our respective sports."

But Massachusetts Democratic Rep. Barney Frank (news, bio, voting record), the top Democrat on the House committee, opposed the bill. He said Congress should not seek to control how adults spend their money just because some lawmakers oppose gambling.

"Adults are entitled to do with their money what they want to do," he said.

A group called the Poker Players Alliance opposed the legislation as well.

"It is disingenuous to oppose Internet gambling and then write a bill that makes select forms of online gambling legal," said Michael Bolcerek, president of the group.

U.S. efforts to outlaw Internet gambling also have been opposed by the Caribbean state of Antigua, which has been trying to build up its Internet gambling industry as a way to make up for sharply declining tourism revenue.
 

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this is the sad part and why ill be done with this hobby and go find another IF this passes


from the article in yahoo


Unlawful gambling, under the legislation, would include placing bets on online poker sites, for example, and any other online wager made or received in a place where such a bet is illegal under federal or state law.
 

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Look on the bright side.......

this bill will prevent people from losing more money in the future.
 

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What a stupid statement.... obvious coming from a loser.

chrismiz said:
Look on the bright side.......

this bill will prevent people from losing more money in the future.
 

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World Number One said:
will neteller give in to the u.s. govt ?

does the u.s. control the isle of man ?

WNO, the US govt can simply prohibit US domiciled banks from dealing with NETeller.

NETeller will then simply lose their US business.
 

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chrismiz said:
Look on the bright side.......

this bill will prevent people from losing more money in the future.

Yeah and maybe we should outlaw alchohol because on the bright side there will be no more drunk drivers.

Or outlaw the stock market. Because people wont lose their money.

Or make buying a house illegal, because in a bad real estate economy nobody will lose.

WTF????

:smoker2:
 

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chrismiz said:
Look on the bright side.......

this bill will prevent people from losing more money in the future.

if you feel this way , then they should ban all gambling, state lotteries ,bingo
etc etc
 

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how would this stop Fed Ex?

obviously the transferring of the money, is what they would have to stop. they arent going to go door to door and get your computer...
 

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Any chance guys like this:

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And
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Will step in and turn some supporters into this?

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or
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This is a joke by the way. I was just wondering if some of the big betters would make threats or try and pay them off?
 

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Well one thing is for sure here, This CANT be good. ALL this talk will surely just draw More heat to the fire.


SSI had great point, do you actually think that the Locals and Fed Ex are going to stop !! Well no they wont.
 

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