Can you give me an example of a "ROGUE" type line in baseball?

Iceman · Mar 23, 2006

posted the same question over at a another forum. My guess would be around 10 cents off consenus number ( breakeven scalp).

Example: -125/+115 at most books and a rogue type line would be -115/+105. Are these common numbers that you will find if you look hard enough or are most all numbers "painted". I know this is kind of vague question that may be hard to answer but my knowledge of baseball betting is very limited.

I would like to apply some of the same principals I used in betting "rogue type lines" in hoops to the tune of 55.9% on over 700 plays in a 6 week peorid (my best stretch ever in any sport). Not sure if this can be done but going to start asking a TON of baseball related questions to try and piece together a possibile plan for betting bases.

With the success I enjoyed (worked my a** off) during hoops useing similar theoriess (tried to beat the closing line by a 1 point or more). I think getting down on GREAT bets (great numbers) is the style I will try to use in all sports from now on. Will try to add a little bit of cappinrg to it in the future

Insiders · Mar 23, 2006

ice man

Well at least this is a gambling related question.

Yes you can find what you call rogue lines in baseball, but Not in the offshore industry. Well you might find .02 here and there.
If you have Locals that deal 10 cent baseball lines and they are heavy one way or the other, then you can find it Back through the offshore industry.
Take notice now that you will see Most ALL offshore numbers merely painted as they surely are nowdays. Even into those shaded totals.
But dont take my word for it, just watch and see.

Iceman · Mar 23, 2006

Insiders said:
ice man

Well at least this is a gambling related question.

Yes you can find what you call rogue lines in baseball, but Not in the offshore industry. Well you might find .02 here and there.
If you have Locals that deal 10 cent baseball lines and they are heavy one way or the other, then you can find it Back through the offshore industry.
Take notice now that you will see Most ALL offshore numbers merely painted as they surely are nowdays. Even into those shaded totals.
But dont take my word for it, just watch and see.

thanks for the reponse.

First off I would appreciate it if you would lay off on the shots on me. I have worked hard to try and be respected and valued on this forum(which I have been told by many that I am). I don't need some poster taken everything I have worked for and try tearing me down. I guarantee you my desire and will to win is higher than 99% of the people on here. I have learned alot by asking well thought out questions and I think many posters would say the same. Isn't that why we are here in the first place? If you feel uncomfortable answering any of my questions than please stay out of thread. Nobody asked you in. You have lost my respect for you and I don't appreciate the things you have said.

Secondly, I disagree with you 100% about the painted lines theory you like to say. I am not saying you are wrong and I imagine you are getting great numbers with all your locals ( I use 2 myself). I was averaging over 150+ plays a week at some of the sharpsest books on the net (WWTS,CRIS,OLY,) combined with the likes of not so sharp books (BET365, NINE, SIA, BOS). If you aren't finding them than you aren't looking hard enough (IMO). I am not at all saying that you are not a winning player, I just think that we are two opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to gambling. I thank you for giving me a totally different view than I have. Good Luck

Insiders · Mar 23, 2006

First Off.

You asked, i gave you my honest opinion!

Next if i was going to take a "shot" at you, you would know it. You certainly do ask some very strange questions for a gambling related forum, dontcha think?
I will be more than happy to answer ANY gambling related question for you or Anyone else for that matter, if i know the answer.

As far as being at opposite ends of the spectrum, that very well could be.
obtw while i am thinking about it, you have a few here that think that you work for the Governemnt, and i am not so sure that is not correct as well.
150 plays at 10.00 per play uh?
And you are most welcome for a "different" view.
BOL to you too !

trytrytry · Mar 23, 2006

inside

i dont think he was taking a shot at you.

i think we was just saying that at least there is a thread started in the RX main room that is gambling related. more of a thank you.

Iceman · Mar 23, 2006

Insiders said:
First Off.

You asked, i gave you my honest opinion!

Next if i was going to take a "shot" at you, you would know it. You certainly do ask some very strange questions for a gambling related forum, dontcha think?
I will be more than happy to answer ANY gambling related question for you or Anyone else for that matter, if i know the answer.

As far as being at opposite ends of the spectrum, that very well could be.
obtw while i am thinking about it, you have a few here that think that you work for the Governemnt, and i am not so sure that is not correct as well.
150 plays at 10.00 per play uh?
And you are most welcome for a "different" view.
BOL to you too !

I made 769 wagers at $84,645 bet. Hardly $10 a bet. I have a 10k bankroll and bet around $110 a play. I made $5,750 or 6.8 ROI.
What question scared you? Because i was trying to calculate my net worth and I didn't quite understand how to this 100% accuratley. WOW.I never once got pesonal, like you do (asking about my job, what is yours? I think you need to respect some people's privacy.)

I will say this for the 3rd time. I work for a contract company (cable) and run a fairly big project, where I get to work my own hours. I have around a dozen people underneath me and LOVE my job. The freedom and $$(all commisions, which I find rewarding) are EXCELLENT. There you have it. I hope I put you at ease.

Christian · Mar 23, 2006

Insiders said:
As far as being at opposite ends of the spectrum, that very well could be.
obtw while i am thinking about it, you have a few here that think that you work for the Governemnt, and i am not so sure that is not correct as well.
quote]

ha ha...i actually DID work the U.S. government for a couple years and i still live in D.C. but no one ever gives me s***. ha ha

i've got a lot of friends who are feds and, trust me, those dudes gamble just as much as you guys do! do you know how many bookies live here in d.c.? granted, the Fairfax, VA police just shot and killed one of them on his front lawn back in january (he was unarmed, by the way)...so there is one fewer bookie, but there are still plenty of them out there.

i know you guys love your conspiracy theories. but relax everybody. big brother isn't going to kick down your tonight and seize your laptop!

idiots in washington can't even control something as despicable as child pornography on the internet....do you ever think they're going to find a way to shut down the offshore gambling industry?

we'll always find a way around it.

Iceman · Mar 23, 2006

Christian said:
Insiders said:

As far as being at opposite ends of the spectrum, that very well could be.
obtw while i am thinking about it, you have a few here that think that you work for the Governemnt, and i am not so sure that is not correct as well.
quote]

ha ha...i actually DID work the U.S. government for a couple years and i still live in D.C. but no one ever gives me s***. ha ha

i've got a lot of friends who are feds and, trust me, those dudes gamble just as much as you guys do! do you know how many bookies live here in d.c.? granted, the Fairfax, VA police just shot and killed one of them on his front lawn back in january (he was unarmed, by the way)...so there is one fewer bookie, but there are still plenty of them out there.

i know you guys love your conspiracy theories. but relax everybody. big brother isn't going to kick down your tonight and seize your laptop!

idiots in washington can't even control something as despicable as child pornography on the internet....do you ever think they're going to find a way to shut down the offshore gambling industry?

we'll always find a way around it.

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Christian,
Thanks for the props buddy. Some guys are watching way too many movies. One poster said this as a joke the other day (with a smiling face icon in his thread) and Insiders won't leave it alone.

If you are so worried about that you are doing something wrong than stop doing it. Having 12 locals maybe your biggest problem/fear, not some "wannabe" sharp/poster .

Insiders · Mar 23, 2006

ice man said:
I made 769 wagers at $84,645 bet. Hardly $10 a bet. I have a 10k bankroll and bet around $110 a play. I made $5,750 or 6.8 ROI.
What question scared you? Because i was trying to calculate my net worth and I didn't quite understand how to this 100% accuratley. WOW.I never once got pesonal, like you do (asking about my job, what is yours? I think you need to respect some people's privacy.)

I will say this for the 3rd time. I work for a contract company (cable) and run a fairly big project, where I get to work my own hours. I have around a dozen people underneath me and LOVE my job. The freedom and $$(all commisions, which I find rewarding) are EXCELLENT. There you have it. I hope I put you at ease.

Well i must have missed the First 2 times that you told us your job. obtw ( I didnt ask you what your job was, i merely ask you if you worked for the government)
My job is pickin Winners !
Oh and one more thing, i will Not darken your door again with a post!
But on the other hand i might read your posts to see what your next move will be. Cant wait for your next "personal" question.

Insiders · Mar 23, 2006

If you are so worried about that you are doing something wrong than stop doing it. Having 12 locals maybe your biggest problem/fear, not some "wannabe" sharp/poster .[/quote]

Not worried about doing something wrong at all, been doing it before you were born, probably. And as far as leaveing it alone, I might not, now! You sure dont seem to be doing that!
As far as "wannabe", who really cares as this is Cyberspace!

Iceman · Mar 23, 2006

God luck insiders. I'm sure we both have bigger fish to fry than arguing about this. :toast:

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