Does The Rx Need To Accomadate Touts

winbet · Mar 25, 2006

Firstly this is not a bash on touts, my stance is if a service or person is good at what they do then they should earn from people who havent the time or inclination to put in the work needed to make a profit on gambling. Mine and most people's concerns are at the obvious flagrant touts who just put plays out on thin air.

You dont have to be very experienced to know all the ploys and see who is a scammer. The problem for the RX is, are they an asset as in generating posts and interest or a liability which puts people off the site. I think that over recent years in this game it has been accepted that these posters were required to keep the Forums going and have now become established. However things for this site has moved on, there is enough traffic to sustain life without the Touts.

Maybe putting them to the sword would be seen as a good gesture for the community on board, especially the posters who put in plenty of time for free. The newbies would feel secure in the knowledge that posts havent an ulterior motive and the Mods would be able to sleep better at night, not having to justify something they dont believe in.:drink:

TTinCO · Mar 25, 2006

IMO, it's a necessary evil. By giving them a room to post their hype, it keeps them out of the rest of the forum. For the most part, they follow the rules pretty well, so I'd say that it serves it's purpose.

wilheim · Mar 25, 2006

Winbet - I will try to answer as best I can..

Mine and most people's concerns are at the obvious flagrant touts who just put plays out on thin air.

You say touts but really you must be talking about cappers in our sport forums. We do not allow any promotional threads by services (touts) anywhere but in Site Promotions. There is nothing we can do to stop everyday posters from posting plays - natrually we encourage all cappers to keep accurate (posted) records of their plays but cannot make that mandatory to post here at The Rx...

You dont have to be very experienced to know all the ploys and see who is a scammer.

We are also very proactive against anyone scamming here at The Rx. Simply posting a play is not a scam - even if it is a gaudy "Lock of the year" type post. Maybe you can enlighten us to who the scammers are.

The problem for the RX is, are they an asset as in generating posts and interest or a liability which puts people off the site.

No one wants to see posters put off but unless they visit Site Promotions there is little risk of seeing any tout promotional threads.

I think that over recent years in this game it has been accepted that these posters were required to keep the Forums going and have now become established. However things for this site has moved on, there is enough traffic to sustain life without the Touts.

I really don't know what posters you are talking about..

Maybe putting them to the sword would be seen as a good gesture for the community on board, especially the posters who put in plenty of time for free.

The only people charging for picks are in Site Promotions. The Rx. recieves absolutely nothing by having that forum up. Unfortunaely it is a necessary evil and we try to keep all touts contained there. Are there some touts posting in our sport forums - yes but they abide by strictly enforced rules and have been here many years.. Again The Rx. will not tolerate any promotional posting by touts in any or our sport forums.

The newbies would feel secure in the knowledge that posts havent an ulterior motive and the Mods would be able to sleep better at night, not having to justify something they dont believe in.

The Rx. mod team pays particular attention to newbies and we are very vigilant about email solicitations or any other type of promotional threads aimed at newbies. Personally I have no problem sleeping at night.

Why do we have a Site Promotion Forum? Mainly as a catch all for anything that gets posted that is trying to sell something. There are all kinds of "deals" on the internet and many end up here at The Rx.. We tried to do away with Site Promotions but it left a hole for those type of threads. I understand the argument - why allow them at all? The problem is drawing the line between legitimate promotions and those with less than honorable intentions.

Bottom line it's Caveat Emptor for all in Site Promotions.

Thanks, wil..

winbet · Mar 25, 2006

Absolutely top class answers Wil and sorry if I annoyed anyone. Its just after reading a post where someone fell for the, " If it loses, you can have the next 3 free " ploy made me think this site doesnt need that sort of shit.

As always, you mods do a wonderful job, even tinofcocoa. :103631605

JimmyHoffa · Mar 25, 2006

Agreed, fine and comprehensive response Wil.

Question, did the touts bleed into the sports forums THAT MUCH when the promotions forum was closed?

Personally I'd prefer that the promotions room go back to being closed because of the repugnant trash that shills their wares in there, but if you've proven that closure of that room just sends them into the sports forums then your experiment was fruitful.

CollegeFan · Mar 25, 2006

wilheim said:
You say touts but really you must be talking about cappers in our sport forums. We do not allow any promotional threads by services (touts) anywhere but in Site Promotions. There is nothing we can do to stop everyday posters from posting plays - natrually we encourage all cappers to keep accurate (posted) records of their plays but cannot make that mandatory to post here at The Rx...

Naturally, it would be very, very difficult to monitor, but perhaps when people post plays, they should be required to post their record (of posted plays).

winbet · Mar 25, 2006

Hows it going Jimmy, long time no hear, hope all is well. At least your still in the game :103631605

wilheim · Mar 25, 2006

Jimmy

Question, did the touts bleed into the sports forums THAT MUCH when the promotions forum was closed?

Right now we have touts contained in one spot (Site Promotions). The problem I found when that forum was closed was there would be no place for anything promotional to be placed and a lot of it ended up in various other forums. Unelss we want to get into deleting a ton of threads (something we DO NOT like to do) the Site Promotion Froum remains a necessary evil.

College fan..

Naturally, it would be very, very difficult to monitor, but perhaps when people post plays, they should be required to post their record (of posted plays).

The Rx. does encourage established posters (at least 300 posts) to use the Tracker Forum so they can be monitored but trying to track every poster that makes picks is impossible. Natrually we encourage cappers to honestly track themselves and post those results whenever they publish a play. Unfortuantely it is impossible to enforce this without turning the site into a very heavily moderated enviornment.

Thanks, wil..

JimmyHoffa · Mar 25, 2006

All is well Winbet, and best wishes to you.

I semi-hibernate between football and baseball seasons. I pretty much pass on basketball.

:toast:

JimmyHoffa · Mar 25, 2006

Thanks Wil, see you in August.

Will Winbet cross the pond for the bash?

jeffksu · Mar 25, 2006

the rx. com

winbet · Mar 25, 2006

Jimmy Hoffa said:
Thanks Wil, see you in August

Will Winbet cross the pond for the bash?

Not looking good at the mo jimmy. Although being born and brought up in London, I live on the West coast of Ireland now, so any spare time seems to be either going back to London and drinking with all the old betting lowlifes or entertaining Relatives and Friends in this wonderful place. I would like to get in touch with you by email, not sure how its done, might show you a few tricks on the basketball so your not kicking your heels.:drink:

JimmyHoffa · Mar 25, 2006

Grab my e-mail address from a moderator, permission granted.

wilheim · Mar 25, 2006

Emails can be passed along at wilheim@therx.com

quantumleap · Mar 25, 2006

wilheim said:
Right now we have touts contained in one spot (Site Promotions). The problem I found when that forum was closed was there would be no place for anything promotional to be placed and a lot of it ended up in various other forums. Unelss we want to get into deleting a ton of threads (something we DO NOT like to do) the Site Promotion Froum remains a necessary evil.

wil, I've noticed that Champion Plays is still posting in the posting forums. Are they the only tout that is an exception to this rule?

wilheim · Mar 25, 2006

Champion Plays should be posting in Site Promotions. Sometime touts can slip thru unless posters report them.

wil..

PatrickMcIrish · Mar 25, 2006

Yeah don't do away with Site Promotions, that would be like doing away with prisons for the rest of the citizens. At least we got them contained somewhere. Outside of extinction that's the best we can hope for with these tout scumbags...

quantumleap · Mar 25, 2006

wilheim said:
Champion Plays should be posting in Site Promotions. Sometime touts can slip thru unless posters report them.

wil..

Thanks for the prompt and honest response wil.

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