Just watched the 1983 NC State/Houston NCAA Final

NickPappagiorgio · Mar 30, 2006

Wow, so much has changed. In this game, no shot clock, no 3 point shots. If there were 3 pointers in this game NC ST would have won by 20 (I think thats how they won the ACC tourney that year). Ive seen at least 5 shots go in that were shot from beyond 3 point range. Also, in '83 there was no double bonus after 10 fouls, it was always one and one (the way it should be). With all these differences, there is one thing that has remained a constant. Which proves one of my thoughts wrong.

BILLY PACKER DOESNT KNOW HOW TO SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!!!

I always thought Billy Packer got more annoying in the last few years. Im watching this game and Packer doesnt shut his friggin mouth. Its like he gets paid by the word for christ sakes.

NickPappagiorgio · Mar 30, 2006

Heres another thing that hasn changed, in the post game, Brent let us know that NC State were 8 point dogs. Love it!!!!

maxdemo · Mar 30, 2006

That game and the Oilers choke job In Buffalo in the AFC Playoffs are my 2 worst sports memories..That game hurt for weeks...JMO

CAPNCRUNCH · Mar 30, 2006

Every single game that NC State won in the NCAA's that year was a miracle. And I agree, the game was great with the one and one free throw rule. Without it, NC State had no chance.

They changed that rule, the very next year!

NickPappagiorgio · Mar 30, 2006

They changed the rule because games took 3 hours to play. I miss Jimmy V, one of the best speeches I ever hear was at the ESPYs right before he passed. He may be gone, but never forgotten.

"Never Give Up"

Wrigley · Mar 30, 2006

CAPN CRUNCH said:
Every single game that NC State won in the NCAA's that year was a miracle. And I agree, the game was great with the one and one free throw rule. Without it, NC State had no chance.

They changed that rule, the very next year!

And NC state would not of even a been in the tourney if they did not win the ACC tourney that year that to was a great feat many dont remember about that team.

NickPappagiorgio · Mar 30, 2006

And the main reason they won that was because the ACC had the 3 pointer and much if the rest of NCAA did not. They did a great job shooting the ball. Also Sidney Lowe was awesome from the foul line. If I recall correctly he was something like 44 for 45 for te tourney from the foul line.

Wrigley · Mar 30, 2006

tvwatchr said:
They changed the rule because games took 3 hours to play. I miss Jimmy V, one of the best speeches I ever hear was at the ESPYs right before he passed. He may be gone, but never forgotten.

"Never Give Up"

Classic Speech

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/jimvalvanoespyaward.htm

Jim Valvano: Arthur Ashe Courage Award Address

docmercer--banned · Mar 30, 2006

Love it when he got on the guy telling him "to wrap it up " ....

THAT WAS A CLASSIC LINE!

Insiders · Mar 30, 2006

Wrigley said:
Classic Speech

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/jimvalvanoespyaward.htm

Jim Valvano: Arthur Ashe Courage Award Address

Agree i will never forget him or the speech for that matter.

NEVER GIVE UP !!

R I P Jimmy V.

cutacrossshorty · Mar 30, 2006

tvwatchr said:
They changed the rule because games took 3 hours to play. I miss Jimmy V, one of the best speeches I ever hear was at the ESPYs right before he passed. He may be gone, but never forgotten.

"Never Give Up"

Valvano actually gave a "Never give up" speech months before that one. It was on court prior to an NC State game versus Duke. NC State was having a terrible year and I layed double digits on Duke with a local. Once he started with "never, ever, ever, give up", I knew NC State would battle to the end and my wager had no chance. This was in the days prior to offshore books. It was a late afternoon game and the office was closed.

NickPappagiorgio · Mar 30, 2006

Wrigley-
Than you for posting that site. I have the speech on tape but never have seen it on a site before.

Wrigley · Mar 30, 2006

doc mercer said:
Love it when he got on the guy telling him "to wrap it up " ....

THAT WAS A CLASSIC LINE!

:missingte

I talked about my family, my family's so important. People think I have courage. The courage in my family are my wife Pam, my three daughters, here, Nicole, Jamie, LeeAnn, my mom, who's right here too. And...that screen is flashing up there thirty seconds like I care about that screen right now, huh? I got tumors all over my body. I'm worried about some guy in the back going thirty seconds, huh? You got a lot, hey va fa napoli, buddy. You got a lot.

:lolBIG:

jimmydingle · Mar 30, 2006

i had a guy come into the bar where i was working in framingham ma claiming to be the white guard for houston, and he looked just like him only 15 years older-
his car had broken down and he was carrying the bald spare to get it filled rather than buying a new tire-he was chain smoking and had five vodka tonics in about 20 mins-really fukin sad

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