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Article retrieved March 30, 2006 from: "http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2006/03/30/could_the_future_of_internet_gambling_in_the_us_lie_in_antigua/"

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Could the future of Internet gambling in the US lie in Antigua?

Washington faces a messy showdown after the WTO rules against it, finding that island firms have the right to offer online betting on horse races

By Hiawatha Bray, Globe Staff | March 30, 2006

The tiny nation of Antigua and Barbuda has scored a technical knockout against the United States in an international trade dispute that could determine the future of Internet gambling in this country.

The World Trade Organization has given the United States until April 3 to allow Antigua-based online gambling companies to offer Internet horse-race betting, or face the threat of retaliatory trade sanctions. Sanctions levied by a country of only 70,000 people might have an imperceptible impact on the US economy. But the ruling offers a stark example of the challenge of regulating Internet commerce and could place the United States at odds with some larger allies that have embraced online gambling. So far, there's no sign that the United States will avoid the showdown.The US Justice Department says that Internet gambling is illegal, even though millions of Americans do it, and federal law has made an exception for horse racing.

''It looks like the US is just going to ignore the World Trade Organization opinion," said I. Nelson Rose, professor of law at Whittier Law School of Costa Mesa, Calif., and an expert on gambling law. ''Financially it's not going to be that big a deal for the United States . . . but politically, it's really a dangerous position."

Mark Mendel, the American attorney representing Antigua, saidfailing to resolve the dispute would leave the United States in the embarrassing position of appearing to bully a small nation that is playing by the rules. That could damage the authority of the World Trade Organization, the global trade body that the United States worked so hard to establish. ''If they undermine its strength and its credibility by basically refusing to adhere to a decision," said Mendel, ''then they've kind of told the rest of the world what the WTO is really for."

Antigua is considering retaliatory moves that could enable the tiny nation to punch above its weight. There's no appetite for slapping trade sanctions on US goods; that would hurt Antiguan companies and consumers far more than Americans. Instead, the country may refuse to enforce American patents and trademarks. This would make it possible for Antiguan-based companies to produce knock-offs of American intellectual property, like video and music recordings or computer software. Such a tactic would get the attention of major US firms like Microsoft Corp. and entertainment titan Time Warner Inc. It would also put tiny Antigua's trade war against the United States on front pages around the world.

The showdown demonstrates the challenge of regulating an industry that can set up shop anywhere on the planet, thanks to the Internet. It also shows that America has yet to fully come to terms with legalized gambling, even though Americans spend more than $70 billion per year on games of chance. Even as Antigua presses its case, the US Congress is pushing for strict new limits on Internet gambling. The legislation and the US stance before the World Trade Organization could also cause trouble with Great Britain, one of America's closest allies. Britain already tolerates Internet gambling, and will begin formally licensing and regulating companies in 2007. An American ban on Internet gambling would lock Britain's huge online casinos out of the extremely rich US market.

According to the US Justice Department, a 1961 law against telephone and telegraph betting also covers the Internet, but some federal judges have rejected that claim. A bill introduced in February by US Representative Bob Goodlatte, a Virginia Republican, would clear up confusion by explicitly banning Internet betting.

Even so, a mere online gambling ban would be virtually unenforceable. According to the gambling research firm Christiansen Capital Advisors LLC of New Gloucester, Maine, Americans already make up one-third of the 23 million online bettors worldwide, despite the Justice Department's insistence that such betting violates US law.

Another piece of pending legislation, this one authored by Iowa Republican Representative Jim Leach, seeks to ban US financial institutions from providing payment services to online casinos. As a result, Americans would no longer be able to use their credit cards to place online bets.

The Antiguan government has denounced the Justice Department's stance and the proposed antigambling regulations, saying they would be an unfair hindrance to a small country that's counting on online wagering as a major revenue source.

Antigua brought its case against the United States to the World Trade Organization in March 2003, with backing from the European Union, Canada, Mexico, and Taiwan. In 2004, Antigua won a sweeping victory that would have required the United States to abandon virtually all restrictions on overseas Internet gambling companies. On appeal, the scope of the ruling was substantially reduced.

The US Trade Representative's Office hailed the ruling as a victory. ''The appellate body has affirmed that WTO members can protect the public from organized crime and other dangers associated with Internet gambling," said Peter F. Allgeier, the acting US trade representative, last April. Repeated efforts to reach the agency this week were unsuccessful.

But the World Trade Organization still found that the United States could not forbid all forms of offshore Internet gambling. Despite strong opposition from the Justice Department, Congress in 2000 passed a law that permits Internet horse-race gambling in states that allow wagering on horses. And the World Trade Organization held that the United States could not prohibit Antigua from offering such services to American gamblers if they can be legally provided by US firms.

Antigua's legal representative Mark Mendel interprets the ruling to mean that his client should be able to offer all kinds of online gambling to American consumers, not just horse racing. ''In a general sense we want to have access to the American gaming market," Mendel said. In any case, he said that the United States hasn't taken steps to open even horse betting to overseas competitors.

''The US has violated its obligations," said Mendel. ''It is clear that it has done so." </see>
 
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The US feds don't care. It's pathetic......they have implied that they are above WTO law.
 

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The U.S.A. is just thumbing their nose at the world. The U.S. founded the WTO to stop countries from doing what the USA is doing to Antigua. What a country. Hypocrites to the extreme.
 

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While I agree that the US politicians will likely not bow to this one issue - I am happy to see a groundswell of public knowledge about the issue.

This WTO issue is just one brick in the wall, but there are more and more bricks - and hopefully each one educates the US public a little bit more. My hope is that when this finally goes in for a vote that there has been sufficient time for the American public to form an opinion and for politicians to realize that this will not just slip under the radar.

They wont be able to vote and hide. That is my hope.

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I think that with the illegal immigration/border issue becoming so hot right
now that Congress won't worry about any anti-internet gambling legislation.
Hell, from the political shows that I watch, they may not do anything on
immigration until after the new elections in Nov. Good time for the border issue to come up unless they attach anti-internet gambling to border
legislation.
 

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Regulation is a game you play. Is there a secret agenda?

The legislation and the US stance before the World Trade Organization could also cause trouble with Great Britain, one of America's closest allies. Britain already tolerates Internet gambling, and will begin formally licensing and regulating companies in 2007. An American ban on Internet gambling would lock Britain's huge online casinos out of the extremely rich US market.



In the vein of will the hypocrisy stop or is there a secret agenda by both sides, here is the agenda that is playing out whether by design or otherwise.
I say design.


When reading about the Antiguian govement training on banking regulations and such there was a comment by a woman who said that in the fututre Antigua could appraoch the US with the right framework so to speak when the time came. As one who has been to these type of training classes I can tell you the formula is the same.


You get your materials and you read thru it. The instructor by example and thru role play using real world examples takes you thru the key behavior, buzzwords and actions you are to take when adressing ANY gaming issue.
This builds leadership skills and helps one deal with the larger gaming community at hand. In Antiguas case it amounts to learning how to build an acceptable regulatory structure. At the end of the intensive you are expected to have absorbed it all and act in those ways at all times when adressing any gaming related issue. You will not be told again. Therefore you never break from the status quo. NEVER. Rocking the boat is a career ending move. Its why Vegas is neutral on everything. Believe me when I tell you. That or you take a chnace.




This is what I have long believed/known I just cant prove it in the subtle but mean way its been done. I do know how these true upstairs types think and its hard core racketeering type one for sure.


There is a group here that has lusted after the islands openly since day 1 and I feel this group is holding stocks in companies around the world that have the islands surronded and are ready to pounce when the political air changes which many thought would be early 2007. Now? In any event its a move toward regualtion and the MGM as well as Harrahs are ready to go at a moments notice and blow eveyone out of the water. Those who will be doing buisness out there have already been choosen. Find out what stocks they own and follow. I would look Australias way first, then over to Canada.



Now in my opinion Antigua and realted islands is the only place these corps would want to go because of the built in tourist attractions plus other diversions. People want to go there and so thats where they want to build.


Currently there is to much competition from the offshores so all of gaming is playing victim to the DOJ whom is stepping in to protect its citizens interest as always. Now for the corps to really step in they need to eliminate a good deal of the competition or push into a deep grey area where it is not a threat.


The Brits going to formal regulation was a monster threat to the US. I believe they felt they could squeeze out Costa Rica with out much help. Inteneded or not the BoS bust did two big things in the big picture.


1.It pushed everybody back behind the line far. This means if those Engalnd books were going to open up to America they certainly aren't now for awhile.
This effectivly walls that market off before it really ever gained traction here.
They are effectivly squeezed out from doing anything until the Carruthers thing is settled. No two ways about it. No one is taking a chance with a bully.


2. It puts Costa Rica under huge pressure there are a number of books out there. Many of them survive mostly on the credit shop side of things which is under attack in this country. (I am positive we will hear about more agent arrest as the months go by.) This squeezing of the agents causes fear and thins the ranks thus reducing many of the bottom and middle feeder places
handle by to much on the thin margins they survive on. This bust regardless of outcome is having a squeezing effect on these type of insolvent books and they will be leaving the scene in the coming times ahead. It also puts them under pressure because as Ralph pointed out they have no one to step up and speak for them essentially. This causes a number of people to panic there and many have very hard decisions to make. Some will decide to leave the scene, they have had enough, they and there familys cant take it anymore. In reality many will be forced as there is no choice or palce to go.


This is already underway right now. Its the exact same thing the VOG went thru in Vegas in the 80's. Before the Feds ever came to get anyone or really had a law to they were scaring people with what they had and what they were doing with it. Add the corps were advancing naturaly the whole time and then with help from the DOJ by crying victim and what you had was a natural squeezing out effect where only the strongest survived till the final ending days.



So it is out there now. Its a secret agenda and its one that works. The DOJ did what it needed to clear the way for the corps. The UK and Costa Rica are effectivly frozen in place until the BoS thing is decided. Many can not wait that long and the only voice Costa Rica is going to have american media wise is a criminal one. The UK knows how to play the game and so can soften there light or not shine it on the US at all. In any event the corps have the time they need until the times change toward open regualtory talk without fear the market will get eaten up by forgien interest before then.


When the wind does start blowing in a more favorable way Antiguia only needs to step up and used what it learned in training. They will follow the formula laid out for them which includes adressing infrastructure issues as well as regulatory ones. This will put Antiguia in the child is asking for help
from the US mode and is using the lessons it taught it to do so. Well now who can resist helping a child like that? This will enable the corps to land on shore and from there its all over. This will put Costa Rica out of buisness for the very most part and I have to believe bank accounts in and around Antiguia are not all that secure from US eyes for sure and hands eventually.


Thats the formula folks and how secret agends are carried out in some cases.
Cold Blooded aint it?
 

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Chuck Sims said:
The U.S.A. is just thumbing their nose at the world. The U.S. founded the WTO to stop countries from doing what the USA is doing to Antigua. What a country. Hypocrites to the extreme.

Yup. How often do you hear all these talking heads on Fox and radio saying "What do we care about what the rest of the world thinks?" Rest assured there will be a price to pay if this keeps up! Remember the days pre 9/11 when it was commonplace to slam the US gov? Now it's unpatriotic if you question a senators ulterior motives or scrutinize a plan of action put forth by congress. Lets hope this phase passes real soon!

BTW, as always, the bottom line is the bottom line - thats why Antigua is up against it right now in the eyes of US government
 

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