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IRS won approval from a Federal Court yesterday to ask PayPal to turn over information about people who might be useing PayPal to evade taxes.
IRS thinks that some may be hidieng income from offshore countries officials said yesterday.

PayPal's Amanda Pires said that the company is still looking at thier options at this time.
 

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i thought paypal quit being an option for offshore books 2 or 3 years ago..
 

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World Number One said:
i thought paypal quit being an option for offshore books 2 or 3 years ago..
they did .....as far as I have heard also .. not sure there are any books that take paypal for a LONG time and paypal , is based in the USA in CALIFORNIA


neteller is not based in the USA to different animals here
 

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You are exactly correct. One is in the USA and the other in Canada.
 

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Dante said:
they did .....as far as I have heard also .. not sure there are any books that take paypal for a LONG time and paypal , is based in the USA in CALIFORNIA


neteller is not based in the USA to different animals here

Would agree on both accounts.
 

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I have a Paypal acct but NEVER used for gambling. LT:103631605
 

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I would think they are more likely to be after EBAY sellers who are evading taxes. I don't know of an offshore that has taken paypal in several years.
 

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The IRS is not going to try to subpoena Neteller's records - 95% or more of gamblers are losing - Paypal services business where people are making money - why go fishing in a lake where there are almost no fish?
 

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Here is the article. Looks as if they are attempting to ID US Citizens who are using PAYPAL to transfer $$$ to offshore accounts to avoid taxes.



WASHINGTON -- The Internal Revenue Service won approval from a federal court to ask PayPal to turn over information about people who might be evading taxes by hiding income in other countries, officials said Tuesday.

A federal court in San Jose, Calif., gave the IRS permission to ask PayPal Inc. -- a company that enables online money transfers -- for account information for American taxpayers who have bank accounts, credit cards or debit cards issued by financial institutions in more than 30 countries reputed to be tax havens.

PayPal spokeswoman Amanda Pires said the company just received the summons.

"We're still evaluating our options," she said. "The privacy of our customers' information is something we take really seriously."

PayPal enables individuals and businesses around the globe to send and receive money online.

In 2005, users moved $27.5 billion through the money transmitter. The company, owned by eBay Inc., has 100 million account holders globally.

The request for information is an outgrowth of an IRS effort, begun several years ago, to trace money that American taxpayers hold offshore to avoid paying taxes. The IRS said many of those taxpayers get their money through credit and debit cards. The tax collectors already have obtained information from some credit-card companies, merchants and payment processors.

The request covers transactions occurring from 1999 through 2004
 

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Dante

You are exactly correct. One is in the USA and the other in Canada.


I think Neteller is actually in The Isle of Man .. A place i wouldnt want to live..


The Isle of Woman , now thats a different story...
 

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The IRS is not going to try to subpoena Neteller's records - 95% or more of gamblers are losing - Paypal services business where people are making money - why go fishing in a lake where there are almost no fish?

Bingo. Huge unreported Ebay profits out there.
 

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I think Neteller is actually in The Isle of Man .. A place i wouldnt want to live..


The Isle of Woman , now thats a different story...


LOL Well said !
 

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Seymour said:
The IRS is not going to try to subpoena Neteller's records - 95% or more of gamblers are losing - Paypal services business where people are making money - why go fishing in a lake where there are almost no fish?

If a person is self-employed and showed 50k annual income each of past 5 years, but used paypal to wire a high % of that 50k each year to gambling joints or elsewhere, they have probably lied on their tax return and the IRS will know that.

Same can be said about Neteller.
 

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state and local governments would love to get these records as well due to uncollected sales taxes on goods sold.
 

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If you transfer more than 10 grand out of the states without reporting it you do!!!
 

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WildBill said:
Good luck getting such info out of Neteller.


Yes, of course they are but the US will have no trouble getting US bank records showing funds FROM Neteller!!
So I told Uncle about my winnings.


Funny--I was thinking supposed a retired person like me on a a fixed income, won $100 K gambling on line and lost $101K. I would be sunk, because regardless of using Schedule A to report losses...the front end tax on $100K would send me to the poor house or probably bankruptcy. The gambling laws are unfair for the little guy.
 

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PayPal is owned by EBAY. How is money being hid in PayPal. If you sell stuff on EBAY you eventually have the money transferred back into your checking account. In order to hide money there could be no link between a checking account and PayPal. The only way to hide money is to bring money that you were paid in cash in an illegal or off the books business to an offshore location. That means carry in a briefcase, bag or whatever and physically bring it offshore.

Are there people running businesses on EBAY and not paying taxes, probably. How would one explain if they had a large incoming transaction from PayPal to their checking account. If the IRS is looking for these people than all it would have to do is request information from EBAY on all Power Sellers.
 

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If the IRS requested the power seller list of EBAY they would then have to cross reference these against the tax records of everyone on the list.

By accessing Paypal they can see who is transferring money offshore. That gives them a much more targeted list to investigate. One article mentioned they were trying to link these to offshore issued credit card and debit cards. These people are moving the money to offshore banks then using debit and credit cards funded by the accounts to pay living expenses in the US. Essentially they are bypassing the US banking system and minimizing any type of trail.
 

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