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From the LV Sun--

April 14, 2006

Jeff Haney finds the poker decent and the blackjack lousy at Hooters---


If you're interested in the Hooters casino on Tropicana Avenue from a gambling perspective, I hope you're a poker player because the place is a blackjack wasteland.
It's not news that paranoia strikes deep among people who run blackjack pits in Las Vegas, but Hooters takes it to a new low.
At most casinos, even those with the lousy, shallowly dealt two-deck blackjack games you see around town, they're content to suddenly shuffle the cards whenever anyone with half a clue raises his bet, thus rendering the game unplayable. This odious practice, unfair to sharp card players and square tourists alike, is known as "preferential shuffling."
The games at Hooters are so bad, they don't even have to resort to preferential shuffling.
The casino offers table after table of blackjack that pays off at odds of 6-5 on a natural (two cards that make 21) rather than the traditional odds of 3-2.
While 6-5 blackjack has, unfortunately, become widespread in recent years, Hooters takes it a step further by restricting players from doubling down except on hands of 10 or 11.
(My vision of hell goes like this: I'm sitting at a 6-5 blackjack table for some reason, and I attempt to double down on a 9 against a 6. The dealer shoves my chips back at me, informing me that particular bet is not permitted.)
It gets worse - or at least more absurd.
At least one table at Hooters that uses a continuous shuffle machine (CSM) to keep the cards in play also has a small sign on it preventing "midround entry" by would-be players.
Such signs are common at traditional (non-CSM) blackjack tables to discourage card counters from jumping in only when the cards are in their favor. But with a CSM, the cards can't be tracked. It's essentially all one infinite "round," so why try to prevent midround entry?
As a review of Hooters on the Web site advantageplayer.com put it, "In what universe does this make sense?"
Like that reviewer, I too was disappointed to discover this blackjack bizarro world. As a new kid on the block and an independent casino operator - rather than yet another outpost of some corporate gaming monstrosity - Hooters had an opportunity to establish itself as a cool, boutique destination where blackjack fans could enjoy a fighting chance.
No dice.
I did get a sense of what might have been in Hooters' cozy three-table poker room. It offers no-limit Texas hold 'em for small buy ins, a friendly and efficient staff and a loose, laid-back vibe. Also, complimentary fresh quesadillas and other snacks about 5 a.m.
You get to the poker room by walking right past all those blackjack tables, and not looking back.
 

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5teamparlay said:
At least one table at Hooters that uses a continuous shuffle machine (CSM) to keep the cards in play also has a small sign on it preventing "midround entry" by would-be players.

Not just paranoia but downright stupidity.

Stopped in Wendover on the way home and found blackjack the way it used to be. Of course they only have to deal with Utahns and not Vegan sharps.
 

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Well no one actually goes to Hooters to gamble!! They go to see the tities!! They do NOT want professional card counters nor even remotely successful players. But realize that this is probably because they have to pay their girls a little higher than most establishments!


DOnt complain about them, they give you EXACTLY what I would expect to get from a hooters casino! HOOTERS!!!
 

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Those old Vegas rules that have disapeared (in LV anyway) made more money for the casinos than any other table game in history including against Las Vegas sharps,etc. They are killing the Goose that laid the Golden Egg by their unmitigated short-sighted greed with 6/5bj and 8 deck BS. I bet Wendover(if they have the traditional rules of which you speak) does just fine.
 

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I went there on a Saturday night, more guys dealing than females as well as more non-hooter type of women dealing there than the 'Hooter' type.
 

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The really bad blackjack is in a special pit with the hotties dealing. The rest of the floor has normal dealer outfits and many male dealers, but they have 3/2 BJ on multi-deck games. I doubt these guys were as afraid of counters as they were just trying to take monetary advantage of the hot dealers. Supposedly the girls make no extra money in pay, but obviously the tokes are much better when you show off your hooters.

Food is very good over there and plenty of nice bars with some good vibe. Only issue is that it is like a nightclub in there, total sausage factory all day and night. Women not working there are usually well-attached to a male companion. Its a good place for watching games or shooting the bull with your buddies, but not exactly where single men want to spend too much time if they are looking for some action. The women haven't quite migrated along from Hard Rock, Mandalay, or Palms yet. Maybe the pool parties will help.
 

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Shows how far 21 has deteriorated when a multi-deck game with 3/2 pay-out for blackjack has to be searched for. Call me demanding but I want a decent 21 game and eye candy and I will have it...damn it!!
Any shuttles running from Vegas to Wendover or Elko or Winnemucca?
 

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A shuttle to those cities? Good luck with that one. All flights that go to those cities fly from Reno, not Vegas.
 

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SUPERBOWL WEEKEND I WAS THERE AT 800 AM WITH MY S TARBUCKS COFFEE FROM FLAMINGO AND PARIDISE I WALKED IN AND AROUND AND GONE BY 815AM.... NO BIG DEAL...........SKIP IT..................:puppy:
 

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