Wait until late tomorrow to bet the Cardinals/Pirates game...

Sekrah · Apr 16, 2006

Because by the time the St. Louis betting is finished.. Pirates +150 to +160, and Alt Runline around +300 will be the best play I have seen ALL YEAR so far. You may never see a game with this much value for the rest of the season.

CHOPTALK · Apr 16, 2006

You think so?

Sekrah · Apr 16, 2006

Chop.. My heart is literally racing right now. I'm not sure if I'll be able to get to sleep tonight..

Iceman · Apr 16, 2006

I too like Pittsbugh and am waiting for a better price. Hope it happens.

Journeyman · Apr 16, 2006

Reasons?

Yes Marquis was lousy last year vs Pitt, but Maholm? If anything play it over.

I almost played Pitt but they just smell too bad and I have a rule against such garbage teams, I'm trying to stick with.

PublicsMoney · Apr 16, 2006

The Cardinals over the last 2 years have owned the Pirates......Cant find a ats or a trend but Ill check around for it.

PublicsMoney · Apr 16, 2006

HEAD TO HEAD HISTORY
Away vs. Home Date Score Total Actual O/U Home Line ATS Winner
Pittsburgh vs. St. Louis 2005-09-14 5-3 8.5 8 U -168.0 Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh vs. St. Louis 2005-09-13 4-5 7.5 9 O -330.0 St. Louis
Pittsburgh vs. St. Louis 2005-09-12 3-4 8.5 7 U -246.0 St. Louis
St. Louis vs. Pittsburgh 2005-08-25 6-3 8.5 9 O 141.0 St. Louis
St. Louis vs. Pittsburgh 2005-08-24 8-3 7.5 11 O 195.0 St. Louis
St. Louis vs. Pittsburgh 2005-08-23 0-10 8.0 10 O -106.0 Pittsburgh
St. Louis vs. Pittsburgh 2005-08-22 3-1 8.5 4 U 157.0 St. Louis
Pittsburgh vs. St. Louis 2005-06-26 5-4 8.5 9 O -160.0 Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh vs. St. Louis 2005-06-25 0-8 8.5 8 U -211.0 St. Louis
Pittsburgh vs. St. Louis 2005-06-24 1-8 9.5 9 U -186.0 St. Louis
Pittsburgh vs. St. Louis 2005-06-23 11-7 9.0 18 O -219.0 Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh vs. St. Louis 2005-05-25 5-11 8.0 16 O -169.0 St. Louis
Pittsburgh vs. St. Louis 2005-05-24 1-2 8.5 3 U -170.0 St. Louis
Pittsburgh vs. St. Louis 2005-05-23 2-4 9.0 6 U -209.0 St. Louis
St. Louis vs. Pittsburgh 2005-04-19 7-1 9.0 8 U 129.0 St. Louis
St. Louis vs. Pittsburgh 2005-04-18 11-1 9.0 12 O 129.0 St. Louis
St. Louis vs. Pittsburgh 2004-08-29 4-0 8.5 4 U 103.0 St. Louis
St. Louis vs. Pittsburgh 2004-08-28 6-4 9.5 10 O 175.0 St. Louis
St. Louis vs. Pittsburgh 2004-08-27 8-5 9.5 13 O 190.0 St. Louis
Pittsburgh vs. St. Louis 2004-08-22 4-11 9.5 15 O -280.0 St. Louis
Pittsburgh vs. St. Louis 2004-08-21 6-10 9.5 16 O -250.0 St. Louis
Pittsburgh vs. St. Louis 2004-08-20 4-5 10.0 9 U -188.0 St. Louis
Pittsburgh vs. St. Louis 2004-08-20 3-5 9.5 8 U -260.0 St. Louis
Pittsburgh vs. St. Louis 2004-08-19 3-2 8.5 5 U -160.0 Pittsburgh
St. Louis vs. Pittsburgh 2004-06-30 5-6 9.0 11 O 139.0 Pittsburgh

PublicsMoney · Apr 16, 2006

19-6 the last 2 years. For what its worth....

CHOPTALK · Apr 16, 2006

Sekrah said:
Chop.. My heart is literally racing right now. I'm not sure if I'll be able to get to sleep tonight..

wow.

This is surprising comming from a capper that I respect. Im on the other side but that does not mean im right and your wrong.

What did you think the line was going to be?

I thought it was pretty close to what I was expecting it to be.

Sekrah · Apr 16, 2006

PublicsMoney, I don't follow trends. I handicap the game.

CHOPTALK · Apr 17, 2006

Sekrah said:
I don't follow trends. I handicap the game.

I agree with that 100%. Most trends suck.

Iceman · Apr 17, 2006

don't think Pitt is bad as they have played (and they have played bad) and am not as big on St.Louis as everyone else is (seem to have be slightly inflated number everyday).

Had my line at Pitt +115. so looking for anything over +130. Just a value play. Not big on Marquis on road with such a high number. Also had Cincy today and Pujols ruined a great day, so maybe I want a little revenge.

SKDiablo · Apr 17, 2006

as of 9:03 PM cardinals are -143 at pinny. what was the opening line?

Sekrah · Apr 17, 2006

Chop.. When I put myself in "Public Thinking" mode, I expected Cards -170 to -180.. I saw the opening line and was puzzled.

Wagerline has 219-59 on Cards (78.8%) right now, confirming my "Public Thinking" suspicions. This line is almost certain to move towards -175 IMO.

I spent last hour handicapping the game and I just can't stop adoring the Pirates in this spot. I think the books are on top of their game here.

I'll have a big writeup tomorrow (similar to my Nats-Marlins one I gave the other day).

Arodd · Apr 17, 2006

really thought STL would open higher, considering how bad Maholm's been. don't know that this a play of the year tomorrow night when the line goes up. locked in STL at -143, gonna stick with that, felt good about it, still do.
If the line goes up to +150 or so like i feel it will, maybe i'll scalp. doubtful though. Maholm hasn't shown anything, and i don't expect a letdown from Marquis and the Cards, specially after he was integral in winning tonight and STL needs to start their road show well

PublicsMoney · Apr 17, 2006

Ill tell you what.....I bought into this Maholm guy and he has disappointed me to date.........not saying that it wont change but.....

Has a 7.71 era. and has given up 10 earned runs in 11 innings pitched thus far. You do what you gotta do.....Ill pass. To me thats all the handicapping that Ill do on this game.

Sekrah · Apr 17, 2006

If the line doesn't move any higher, I think the sharps are all over the Pirates here. Again, not my reasoning for picking the game, but it gives me a little confidence after handicapping the game.

PO69 · Apr 17, 2006

Well first of all, public betting in baseball is usually correct. ANd of course St Louis has dominated Pitt during the past 3 years, EVERYONE dominates Pitt!!

Having said that, I will not play this game, there will be MUCH BETTER options out there

Journeyman · Apr 17, 2006

Marquis 'batting' tonight have anything to do with this?

Like I said earlier I almost pulled the trigger for two units but, it's still the Pirates and still Maholm

CHOPTALK · Apr 17, 2006

I just dont see any reason to take pitt. I had enough confidence to take cards -1.5. Cant wait for the write up.

Wait until late tomorrow to bet the Cardinals/Pirates game...

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