Calvin Ayre...billionaire????

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I saw the Forbes piece on self-made "billionaire" Calvin Ayre. Somebody please explain to me how he's a billionaire? While Bodog has been extremely successful the past couple of years, and Calvin has worked extremely hard to get where he's at, I still don't understand how he's a billionaire.

From the information in the article, which Forbe's facts came directly from Calvin himself, he has $25 million is Canadian and Costa Rican real estate and $40 million hidden away in Swiss banks. That's great...but where's the billion?

In the article it says that Bodog's 2005 gross income was $210 million and that 26% was profit, or $54.6 million. That's what Ayre reports, although bookmakers have a tendacy to overstate the bottom line sometimes. The article goes on to naively suggest that the online sportsbook is worthy of a price at least 18 times earnings because that's what 2 similar publicly traded European ventures go for. 18 times earnings...Disney and Bank of America don't even trade at a P/E that high. That's where they fly off the tracks, in my opinion. 95% of Bodog's income comes from the U.S., which is constantly threatening to pass anti-gambling legislation. Things can change very quickly in the offshore gambling world. From what I've heard, sportsbooks in CR frequently sell in the 2 to 4 times earnings range because of the very high risk involved.

By no means am I slamming Calvin, who deserves everything he has earned, but going by the data supplied by Calvin himself, I would place his net worth at 150 to 300 million. That's still an extremely exclusive net worth, but nowhere near a billion. I think that some gambling magazine said it was worth a billion and Calvin, being the marketing genious that he is, ran with it and kept saying it so often that it became accepted as fact.

Does anyone agree with this, or am I the only one that thinks Forbes got duped and Ayre got some priceless publicity free of charge in this publicity coop?
 

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Welcome to the RX ANTI

To answer your question, have no idea, as I have never thought about it much.

One thing for sure, Calvin is doing allright for himself in the financial world.

-FH-
 

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Fishhead said:
Welcome to the RX ANTI

To answer your question, have no idea, as I have never thought about it much.

One thing for sure, Calvin is doing allright for himself in the financial world.

-FH-

I certainly agree with that.
 

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I wonder how much money he give to Forbes for putting his image on the cover of the magazine. I'm sick of it, it's just like he wants the whole world to know that he's a billionaire. Come on Ayre, your wealthy is just a fraction of what others have compare to other billionaires.
 

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I'm sure Ayre didn't pay Forbes. The self-made young, "bad boy" billionaire made good read for the magazine and helped Forbes billionaire issue to be one of it's most popular issues of the year. Only problem is...he's not a billionaire.
 

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I'm sure Ayre didn't pay Forbes. The self-made young, "bad boy" billionaire made good read for the magazine and helped Forbes billionaire issue to be one of it's most popular issues of the year. Only problem is...he's not a billionaire.

There're a ton of young "bad boy" that have much more interesting story and more money than him, why don't they put them on the cover instead of Ayre, and even if he's a billionaire, the most he would had is just ONE billion, not 10.
 

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There're a ton of young "bad boy" that have much more interesting story and more money than him, why don't they put them on the cover instead of Ayre, and even if he's a billionaire, the most he would had is just ONE billion, not 10.

why do you care?
 

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hes not. do you always believe everything you hear and read ?
 

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Forbes knew putting such a controversial subject as an offshore guy becoming a billionaire and thumbing his nose at the US government would sell magazines.

No the guy doesn't have a billion in a bank account, but how many of these people do? Bill Gates has billions in stock, is that the same as billions in cash on hand? Don't you think if he decided to cash out tomorrow he wouldn't cut his net worth in half?

I do think the multiple was a bit high, but good established operations offshore should go for more than 2 to 4 times earnings. The smaller shops with little competitive edge and highly risky customer lists aren't worth more than that. A book with lots of squares and a heavy investment in advertising should be worth more. The multiple they gave is certainly debatable, but needless to say lots of smart people would probably give him at least $300 to $400 million for the business and possibly more. If he wants to get a billion for it eventually there certainly is still more work to be done.
 

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