Cursed organization? Devil Rays considering changing everything!

Journeyman · Apr 28, 2006

D-Rays? Sorry Tampa fans but this is one of, if not the worst name in all of sports.

Tampa Bay management is considering changing, its uniform, the color scheme/design, and the team name, has that ever happened, change your nickname?

They should though...while they're at it, could they build a real ballpark?

:nopityA:

Fishhead · Apr 28, 2006

The colors are fine in my estimation.

But a new name, stadium, and player would be a welcome addition.

Fishhead · Apr 28, 2006

Its a shame the PIRATES name was allready taken by a team on the river, as that would have fit them perfectly.......as well as the Black and Gold.

quantumleap · Apr 28, 2006

NJ Devils won the Cup one year.

ASU Sun Devils won the College World Series a couple years.

I say keep the name and wait it out.

JimmyHoffa · Apr 28, 2006

All apologies Fish but...

Tampa Bay and all the other franchises established since 1977 would be great candidates for contraction. The current MLB product is the result of over expansion and the diluted talent pool playing at the big league level.

Journeyman · Apr 28, 2006

quantumleap said:
NJ Devils won the Cup one year.

ASU Sun Devils won the College World Series a couple years.

I say keep the name and wait it out.

I didn't think the reason was the word Devils...I thought they were just looking for a new start, the do seem to be cursed though. :icon_conf

Fishhead · Apr 28, 2006

Jimmy Hoffa said:
All apologies Fish but...

Tampa Bay and all the other franchises established since 1977 would be great candidates for contraction. The current MLB product is the result of over expansion and the diluted talent pool playing at the big league level.

I could not agree with you more.

Personally, would like to go back to 1967 and how things were structured then.

Journeyman · Apr 28, 2006

Jimmy Hoffa said:
All apologies Fish but...

Tampa Bay and all the other franchises established since 1977 would be great candidates for contraction. The current MLB product is the result of over expansion and the diluted talent pool playing at the big league level.

What is somewhat amazing is, as bad as most of these expansion organizations have been overall, Florida (no fan support) Tampa (winless) Arizona (big money loser) Colorado (losing annually) (Montreal (had to finally move) Toronto (the only bright spot) Seattle (very few winning seasons)

There have been 5 WS Champions in this group ! Fla -2 Tor -2 Arizona 1

And to think MLB wanted to rid the league a few years back of the Twins, had the Twins not won those World Series they would have already been gone....Bud Selig wanted the Twins and Florida and Tampa gone, Arizona had to borrow money against the league...whatever happened with all that talk?

Journeyman · Apr 28, 2006

Fishhead said:
I could not agree with you more.

Personally, would like to go back to 1967 and how things were structured then.

I would like to back to 1969, 4 divisions...they play 162 games that should decide who gets into the playoffs

Fishhead · Apr 28, 2006

Journeyman said:
I would like to back to 1969, 4 divisions...they play 162 games that should decide who gets into the playoffs

Yes, even better.

That was perfect.

The BEST ever.

JimmyHoffa · Apr 28, 2006

Journeyman said:
I would like to back to 1969, 4 divisions...they play 162 games that should decide who gets into the playoffs

Now that would be like a baseball fan's Christmas gift.

Every night we're all bitching about shoddy bullpens, .225 hitters that can't advance runners, hitters that can't sacrafice, poor fielding, fragile starters, etc...

This is what we get when we have AA talent playing at the major league level.

Fishhead · Apr 28, 2006

Jimmy Hoffa said:
Now that would be like a baseball fan's Christmas gift.

Every night we're all bitching about shoddy bullpens, .225 hitters that can't advance runners, hitters that can't sacrafice, poor fielding, fragile starters, etc...

This is what we get when we have AA talent playing at the major league level.

No question about it.

Journeyman · Apr 28, 2006

And 44 year old crafty lefties with +5 ERA's the past 7 years would be a distant memory.

he didn't break in til age 28...would he have ever made the bigs? Still going at age 44 :missingte

ClipJoint · Apr 28, 2006

Journeyman said:
And 44 year old crafty lefties with +5 ERA's the past 7 years would be a distant memory.

he didn't break in til age 28...would he have ever made the bigs? Still going at age 44 :missingte

Don't get me started...as a Giants fan, this guy is worse than if they would just bring in a position player to pitch.

Journeyman · Apr 28, 2006

Clip Joint said:
Don't get me started...as a Giants fan, this guy is worse than if they would just bring in a position player to pitch.

:lolBIG:

PatPatriot · Apr 28, 2006

Tampa Bay Raiders...black and pewter uniforms?

WorldNumberOne · Apr 28, 2006

can you imagine how much better the product would be if baseball went to 20 to 24 teams..

spread the tv money around to less teams so they all have a better chance to land top players.

would be great if every team had 4 to 8 all star quality players on it.

SALTHEITAL · Apr 28, 2006

Cursed..Shmursed

You'd think the Cubbies and Red Sox would've been at the front of the line(changin' uniforms), if that were the case.

These teams just happen to suck..that's all.

WorldNumberOne · Apr 28, 2006

if i were king :

AL EAST

NYY
BOST
BALT
DET
CLEV

AL WEST
OAK
CALIFORNIA ANGELS
SAN FRAN
LA
SAN DIEGO

NL EAST
NYM
ATL
PHIL
WASH
PITT

NL WEST
CUBS
WHITE SOX
ST LOUIS
MILW
CINC

Cant decide if I would use the DH or get rid of it all together ..

Journeyman · Apr 28, 2006

World Number One said:
can you imagine how much better the product would be if baseball went to 20 to 24 teams..

spread the tv money around to less teams so they all have a better chance to land top players.

would be great if every team had 4 to 8 all star quality players on it.

it will never happen...it makes too much sense:drink: I like it...I like the divisions too.