obviously they tried to trade the pick and couldnt get what they wanted. IF they think williams is the next julius peppers i see nothing wrong with what they did. They can still get a good RB with their first pick in the second round (addai or maroney type). You are not going to get a Defensive Lineman like williams in the second round. And you save a ton of money and you get williams in training camp right away as opposed to a RB who may hold out and start the season on the bench.
The Texans do indeed need more than a running back. What they really need is a group to block for that back. But with that said, if Bush turns into the gamebreaker in the pros, as he was in college, the Texans made a huge mistake, even if Williams turns out to be another Peppers. Pllus if they draft and sign Bush, they can deal Dominick Davis, a proven, quality running back.
The Texans are neither cheap or stupid. THey upgraded their O line this offseason, and have skilled players on the offensive side of the ball. They address the defensive side of the ball which wins championships. Bush is so overated. People keep ignoring the Rose bowl. He was the 4th best player on the field that day and wasnt in the game when it mattered most. Bush is going to struggle big time in NO. So the Texans are neither cheap or stupid, but it can be argued Bush is greedy and short sighted.
That's where you're wrong and the reason why most people don't understand this move. The fact is that defensive players, particularly DE's, have a much much much greater impact on a game, season, team and franchise than an RB. RBs are a dime a dozen and a great DE is much more valuable to a team than a great RB.hawkeye171 said:
Defense creates wins. Period. 99% of teams in the league would give up any RB for a DE with the skill of a Peppers, White, etc that they think this Williams kid is going to be.
What you seem to be overlooking is that Bush appears to be one of those special talents that only comes around once every 10 years or so. Nobody knows for sure but if He turns out as good as many experts feel He is..... Texas will be not only cheap but stupid. Please remember that there have been just as many busts on the defensive side of the line as the offensive side. Have you already forgotten some of the big busts on defense ? Does the name of 2 time Butkus award winner Brian Bosworth come to mind ?cklennon said:
I'm not suggesting that there's not a possibility that Williams could be a bust; that's always a risk with any high draft pick. What I am saying, however, is that assuming that both players achieve their potential, which is the only realistic circumstance we can hypothesize about because none of us are pro scouts or fortune-tellers, Williams is the more valuable player.
The predictions are that both of these guys are going to be All-Pro, HOF type players. Assuming that comes true for both of them, while Bush will definitely get more glory as that's always the case with RBs and O players, Williams will be more valuable to his team and will create more wins than Bush!
The predictions are that both of these guys are going to be All-Pro, HOF type players. Assuming that comes true for both of them, while Bush will definitely get more glory as that's always the case with RBs and O players, Williams will be more valuable to his team and will create more wins than Bush!
I'm from Minny and I can remember the Purple People Eaters way back then when they had almost a whole defensive line of HOF players and they didn't win dip ! It takes a lot of great defensive players... not just one guy ! I think that We will just agree to disagree on this one and enjoy the ride next yearcklennon said:
kermit16 said:
first off, the houston organization is known for overpaying players. so the cheap argument is wrong. second, bush has never been a full time running back. houston has skilled players on offense, a good running back already, have addressed their offensive line over the offseason, but have the 30th rank defense. defense wins championships (unless you subscribe to the michael irvin school of thought that offense wins championships.) look at the most recent superbowl winners (steelers, pats, bucs) if you want to talk about high rated busts at the running back decision, look no futher than kijana carter or curtis enis. also look at the most recent drafts. you can pick up great running backs with later picks (larry johnson, shawn alexander, tiki barber, clinton portis, etc). houston made the right decision and actually overpayed williams.
kermit16 said:
Hindsight is 20-20 and Portland takes a lot of abuse about this but at the time it seemed like the right decision.....Bowie was an agile 7 footer who could do it all and they already had an young all-star big guard in Clyde Drexler.....
Although MJ was regarded as a terrific prospect NO ONE could possibly have had a clue that he would will himself into becoming the best player to ever play the game
I lived In Portland at that time and had been a season ticket holder since their first year in Portland. Trust me very few fans in Portland thought Bowie was a good pick ! Bowie had already had leg problems that caused him to miss 2 full seasons at Kentucky and was anything but mobile. Also in the NBA, it is far better to take the best available talent and go from there rather than draft a big question mark simply because you have a need at that position. Many consider Bowie the biggest mistake in draft History. I'll buy into that one myself.ger379 said:
