Call me a homer or whatever name you like...but to say +170 doesn't have value on a team that has won twice in Phoenix already this year and should have won a 3rd if it weren't for the Raja Bell 3 at the end of the game would be nuts.
I say the Clippers have at least a 50/50 shot of winning Game 7. The Suns have no answer for our post players and Livingston/Ross are giving Nash fits.
I say the Clippers have at least a 50/50 shot of winning Game 7. The Suns have no answer for our post players and Livingston/Ross are giving Nash fits.
Journeyman said:
I disagree...the Clippers have gone 2-3 there this season. In a long series like this, the Suns do not have the advantage they have during the regular season where a team can prepare for their unique style of offense.
As the series has progressed, the Clippers have gotten better and better at defending the Suns. Right now, the Suns have no answer for what we are doing offensively (and never will)...but more importantly, they are having a hard time playing their style of basketball.
Not only did we blow them out in Game 6, we dominated in the 2nd half of Game 5 in Phoenix. We were down 19 points in the 3rd...then had a 3 point lead with 3 seconds left.
To win in the playoffs, you need to be able to make defensive adjustments to win. The Suns have no adjustments to make...they can't stop Brand in the post. They just have to try and stop Maggette from getting to the basket. Even Q Ross exposed Nash as the terrible defender he is by taking him into the post.
Nash will continue to have a difficult time getting the running game going because the Clippers will take whoever he is guarding and post him up. Even if we don't use that player as an offensive option, it keeps Nash from getting out on the break.
Journeyman said:
I don't know about that...Detroit is the better team. I think there is a huge talent difference between Detroit and Cleveland. Phoenix and the Clippers do not have that gap...I would take the Clippers roster over the Suns any day.
I agree about the betting value though...+5.5 and the ML both have tremendous value. Cleveland is a very good home team.
In game 7's the first thing I look for is who is the better team - like last year in the finals - I could not logical say who was better DT or SA - but a Suns team without Stoudamire and a tired Nash is simply not a better team than the Clippers - it's really not even comparable - so all the Suns have going is home court - and they need to win by 5 - I made the Clippers 2 point favorites - the Clippers are not winning a championship but they have a nice balanced team - the Suns are running a gimmick and it gets exposed every year in the playoffs.
Detroit has lost 3 straight games to Cleveland without their 3rd leading scorer, we're talking about right now, the past week or so, what makes any believe the 4th game will be any different, because Detroit was suppose to win , all the sudden they will turn it on in Cleveland and by 6 points? It sure seems like a lot of value to me.
I think the Suns will win at home...I agree with Seymour the Suns are not built for the playoffs, I said that earlier this month.
I think the Suns will win at home...I agree with Seymour the Suns are not built for the playoffs, I said that earlier this month.
Clip Joint said:
I would definately have to take the points or the plus juice before laying them, but would definately take Phoenix with a gun to my head. More importantly, I think the under is a phenominal play. Phoenix will play with more energy defensively at home with rest, and like you said, the Clippers are getting better at defending that attack. Would you agree the under is a fairly large play?
royalfan said:
Impossible for me to bet anymore unders in this series because the Clippers just score at will. It doesn't matter what Phoenix tries to do defensively as far as a scheme...they don't have anyone that can stop us in the post. They can't double because Radmanovic and Cassell light them up from the outside or Maggette cuts to the hoop and gets to the line. They just can't stop us from scoring.
I have been burned on the under twice (one was OT where it shouldn't have even been close). I am staying away from the total. It is just too difficult to handicap. If the Suns make 3's...it goes over. If they don't, it stays under.
exactly right, I just checked and that is the scenario if Cle clinches.
