Are the Angels really this bad?

CHOPTALK · May 22, 2006

You look at the lineup and you say to yourself they have to snap out of this soon. On paper they have just about everything you want in a ball club. Well above average starting pitching, good bullpen and a decent lineup.

I know some of the above is not performing up to ability but based on the past they should be doing alot more.

quantumleap · May 22, 2006

I've been saying all year long that I can't believe this is a Mike Scoscia-coached ball club. Can anyone in SoCal shed some light on why the Angels are doing so poorly?

jammanxc · May 22, 2006

Yeah, i hate the angels... glad I cashed in on the Angels Team Total Under 5. 5 was WAY TOO high... they only average around 3.xx a game.

quantumleap · May 22, 2006

jammanxc said:
Yeah, i hate the angels... glad I cashed in on the Angels Team Total Under 5. 5 was WAY TOO high... they only average around 3.xx a game.

Nice catch Jam.

:103631605

TKE683 · May 22, 2006

They lost Glaus, Molina, Guillen, that is a ton of offense, it finally caught up with them. They traded Finley for Alfonzo, bust, while a healthy Finley is playing very well for the Giants. None of the kids have panned out.
Half of their lineup are minor leaguers.
Weaver was a huge mistake.
So yes they are pretty much that bad.
Oh yeah and Colon is out.
Things will only get worse, the bullpen is great but will get worn out, Gregg already was moved to the rotation to hurt the pen.

teazeman · May 22, 2006

as posted by me in one of maxxx's threads, "i will lose no more of my hard earned money on the fcking angels" i am by no means trying to tell you what to play, but you might do as i and consider getting off these fckers, they are a money pit! just my .02 bro

gynecologist · May 22, 2006

quantumleap said:
I've been saying all year long that I can't believe this is a Mike Scoscia-coached ball club. Can anyone in SoCal shed some light on why the Angels are doing so poorly?

Easy answer Weaver and Colon have pitched terribly
Angels pitching has given up 55 HR's so far this season
Colon (in only 3 games also) 7.07 ERA
Weaver 1-7 7.97 ERA
Santana has been a disapointment there was
alot of buzz about him b4 the season started saying
this would be a huge year for him

Also Angels bats have been pretty quiet BA only .245
Pretty simple Colon and Weaver are terrible bats have
been quiet and team is in a rut.

As a Dodger fan I have to admit it was fun to see
us sweep em!!!!

TKE683 · May 22, 2006

Actually other than Vlad, not much in that lineup is very scary.
Even the good hitters are free swinging, horrible OBP.

gynecologist · May 22, 2006

TKE683 said:
Actually other than Vlad, not much in that lineup is very scary.
Even the good hitters are free swinging, horrible OBP.

OBP.299

You called it. That is definitely one of the reasons. you from
SoCal TKE?

TKE683 · May 22, 2006

I'm in La Mirada, right on the LA/OC border, where are you at gyne?

OUCH!! .299 i didnt realize it was that bad, that is brutal.

gynecologist · May 22, 2006

TKE683 said:
I'm in La Mirada, right on the LA/OC border, where are you at gyne?

OUCH!! .299 i didnt realize it was that bad, that is brutal.

Yeah you made me check it out. I live in Glendale,pretty close
to Dodgers Stadium, Pretty close to the Los Feliz Exit on the 5.

La Mirada is the city right before Anaheim on the 5. I was dating a
girl that lived in La Mirada last October. I couldn't believe I could get to
La Mirada in 17 mins on the freeway, always thought it was
further. I was driving like 90 but still. I like it over there way
better air quality. Better people.

TKE683 · May 22, 2006

Tonight: top six hitters in the lineup 7-26, ZERO walks, top two hitters 2-10, obviously no walks.
They don't make pitchers work, don't get long counts, pitchers are figuring it out and are throwing out of the zone and know they will swing.

TKE683 · May 22, 2006

17 minutes, damn that is great time. It is a very nice area, close to the beaches as well, disneyland, knotts, tons of stuff in Anaheim, can catch Cal State Fullerton baseball.
I like Dodger stadium but it is such a mess getting out of there i don't go that much. I went to see Clemens pitch last year, that was awesome.

gynecologist · May 22, 2006

JEFF WEAVER
2006 Salary: $8,325,000
W-L 1-7---ERA 7.30--OPP BA. 325
LOL

HAS EARNED EVERY DIME!! :lolBIG:

gynecologist · May 22, 2006

TKE683 said:
17 minutes, damn that is great time. It is a very nice area, close to the beaches as well, disneyland, knotts, tons of stuff in Anaheim, can catch Cal State Fullerton baseball.
I like Dodger stadium but it is such a mess getting out of there i don't go that much. I went to see Clemens pitch last year, that was awesome.

I know Anaheim is awesome!! I would love to live there. Dodger
Stadium has a pretty cool deal on Wed/Sun games

4 tickets,4 hot dogs,4 sodas,parking for $52.

Not bad to bring a few people.

TKE683 · May 22, 2006

As a Dodger fan you had to be laughing when you saw that signing. He actually had a decent year last year, DECENT. Not 8 million a year. Plus Dodger stadium is a pitchers park and helped him out big time, plus no DH.

gynecologist · May 22, 2006

TKE683 said:
As a Dodger fan you had to be laughing when you saw that signing. He actually had a decent year last year, DECENT. Not 8 million a year. Plus Dodger stadium is a pitchers park and helped him out big time, plus no DH.

Even the guy on FSN west said something about his contract being
alot more than expected. Bonehead Angels move.

I do think Angels will turn it around. But it might be too late.

TKE683 · May 23, 2006

That is a damn good deal for 52 bucks, i may have to head over.
They need somebody to get going, maybe McPherson, he has a great swing and power, if he can catch fire and Colon can get 100%, maybe call up Jared Weaver to replace his brother in the rotation.

TomorrowsNewspaper · May 23, 2006

the big white flag for me was when Tim Salmon made the team, and is batting in the middle of the lineup at that. He has been trying to retire for 2 years now. There is no protection in the lineup for Vlad with Anderson hurt. With him back I think they will be decent, definately not good.

TKE683 · May 23, 2006

Very true TN, and sadly Salmon is hitting pretty damn well and the offense still sucks. I'm sure the didnt expect this much from Salmon.
Letting Glaus go was the big one, you had Vlad, Garret, Glaus, very tough 3-4-5, R/L/R. If they were that high on McPherson they could have put one of them at first or DH. But you just can't lose a bat like that and they have no offense at either corner.