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This is a GREAT article!

Braves hitting coach Terry Pendleton has spoken with Francoeur about curbing his aggressiveness -- just a touch -- depending on the situation. But when he tried to do that and opened the season 2-for-36, the experiment was scrapped.
36 At Bats is QUITE the sample set I would say!

This Season, Francouer has incredibly made 13% of his teams outs, despite batting in the 6th spot in the lineup. This is the highest % of a teams outs made by one player in the entire major leagues, a feat made even more incredible for someone who will recieve about 75 less plate appearnces as the leadoff hitter will over the course of the season.

Let's look at a definition .

SCOUT
  1. Sports. One who is employed to observe and report on the strategies and players of rival teams.
If you didn't realize this (and maybe the Braves don't), other teams have scouts. Scouts look at Francouer and tell other pitchers what to throw him.
Francoeur went back to hacking at the first good pitch he saw, and his numbers started to climb. A recent 16-game hitting streak shot his average up 84 points to .269, and he entered the week in the N.L.'s top five in RBIs.
10 of those 16 games were against The Florida Marlins and Washington Nationals, 2 of the worst teams in baseball.

He is since 3-23, with ZERO RBI, ZERO HOMERS, AND ZERO EXTRA BASE HITS. He did Draw one walk in this time.

Not coincidentally, the current slump he is in (the mini slump, not the whole season which could also be considered a slump), has come against the Diamondbacks and the Padres, 2 teams that actually pay for scouts to figure out things about other teams.

The problem with the strategy of "Francoeur went back to hacking at the first good pitch he saw" is of course that Francouer's plate discipline is so horrible that he is unable to distinguish what constitutes a "good pitch", and thus he swings at everything.

Francouer feasted on two teams; Marlins and Nationals (2 teams, who don't spend any meaningful amount of money on scouting. One is owned by mlb and has to keep expenses to a bare minimum, the other has a 14 million dollar payroll).

When he started playing real competition again, he began to suck again. Real teams have scouts, and they now have enough AB'S on Francouer to design a plan. The report on Francouer has been filed, and it's not pretty. He get's himself out and handcuff's the Braves offense. The guy doesn't belong in a major league batters box. He should consider a career as a lumberjack.

The fact is that he is one of the least productive regular outfielders in all of professional baseball. He is not "productive", and to assert so only serves to make one look silly and uneducated about new evaluation techniques that have shed light on player value.

Cute article Hobbes, got any more?

 

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And you fall for the bait. I've been sabermetric for years now, haven't looked at ERA since. What's Frenchy's BABIP, do you even know? Do you even know what BABIP means? Point is, you're not the ground breaker you think you are. Frenchy's lack of plate discipline has been a point of concern since high school, and he hasn't resolved it yet. But you're no great shakes with your ANALYSIS, and your obsessive posting just makes you look obsessesed. Me-thinks it's tied into some jealousy of Choptalk, who has a bad habit of starting threads about Braves players. Still, it's old news to the informed baseball community.
 

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Hobbes said:
And you fall for the bait. I've been sabermetric for years now, haven't looked at ERA since. What's Frenchy's BABIP, do you even know? Do you even know what BABIP means? Point is, you're not the ground breaker you think you are. Frenchy's lack of plate discipline has been a point of concern since high school, and he hasn't resolved it yet. But you're no great shakes with your ANALYSIS, and your obsessive posting just makes you look obsessesed. Me-thinks it's tied into some jealousy of Choptalk, who has a bad habit of starting threads about Braves players. Still, it's old news to the informed baseball community.

Batting average on balls in play. next?

I never claimed to be a groundbreaker. I just tire of seeing all these damn delta commercials.

and, it's .274 (his BABIP)
 

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Budworth22 said:
Batting average on balls in play. next?

Well done. What's the league average at his position? Where are you getting your absurd defensive ratings? And this is the most important question, besides being a Marlins fan, why are you so obsessed with Jeff's production, to the point you talk about it ALL THE TIME. Does it have anything to do with Choptalk?
 

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I mainly get my baseball stuff from BP. However, It's a major distraction, and I won't renew my subscription until mid june, as I am currently studying for something very important.

The defensive related statement I made was somewhat based on his Range Factor (pulled it off espn.com, again don't have bp right now). He's in the bottom 3rd on there among NL RF's. His zone rating is bottom 40% according to espn.com also.

I believe that one of the big reasons he had so many assists last year is opposing 3b coaches underrated his arm.

Not sure what the avg babip is right now for nl rf's. Would like to know though...

It doesn't have anything to do with Chop directly but rather I was annoyed with all the Braves bullpen threads going on while everyone ignored Giles and especially Frenchy's dismal production.


 

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