SP 'Luck' System: Rotation #2

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Rotiation #1: 9-3, +6.52 units

rotation #2

Fade

G.Floyd
Chacin
F.Garcia
Wang
Beckett
R.Johnson
Schilling

Follow

McClung
Duke
Francis
Claussen
Washburn
Elarton
Moyer

plays:

Sat 6/3:

Bal +154 (fade R.Johnson)
Pit -132 (Duke)
 

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2-2, -.79 units so far...Washburn shattered what appeared to be a great day...

Mon 6/5:

NYY -130 (fade Beckett)
Cin +112 (Claussen)
 

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bznofx19 said:
Mon 6/5:

NYY -130 (fade Beckett) (W) (got shelled)
Cin +112 (Claussen) (W) (got 'Lucky' :missingte )

4-2, +1.33 so far

Tue 6/6:

Bos xxx (fade Wang)
KC xxx (Elarton)
Det xxx (fade Garicia)
Col xxx (Francis)

those are the plays, will post the lines i get when i buy them.
 

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Is there a thread explaining this system? If so would you bump it up as i'm trying to understand what it is you are doing, thanks man.
 

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teazeman said:
Is there a thread explaining this system? If so would you bump it up as i'm trying to understand what it is you are doing, thanks man.

sure teazeman...i'll explain it in better detail right here...

Sabermetric calculations are done to determine how many "expected wins" and "expected losses" a pitcher should have based off of how he has pitched. A pitcher that is 8-2 with a 4.98 ERA has a very misleading record and should maybe be only 4-5 or so. Luck, as measured by the number of extra wins, and short losses the pitcher actually got, versus his expected record. LUCK = (W-E(W))+(E(L)-L)

I make a distribution of the top 120 Starting Pitchers based on expected wins and their 'luck' number. I then find the top 5 'Luckiest' pitchers and the bottom 5 'Un-Lucky' Pitchers and then fade and follow, respectively.

It will usually have about 6 pitchers in each column and last for 5-6 days...like a real pitching rotation because all of the pitchers must start for the rotation to end. if a starter is about to make a second start in the rotation before it ends i would then re-calculate to see if he still qualifies.

This system is based on people regressing to their "mean" as far as "luck" is concerned. it is not guaranteed from day-to-day, but in the long run will most likely come out on top. It may also point out pitchers that are over/under valued...another great thing about this system.

Example: take Josh Beckett. a good-young pitcher that everyone considers an 'elite'. He was 7-2 before today's game against the Yankees, but he had a ERA around 4.80. His "expected" record was 4.1-4.3...a sub .500 record...his 'Luck' was 5.16 (which is VERY high and made him end up in the FADE column). he got shelled today and generated another system win.

there are usually reasons for the numbers...Beckett has gotten great run support in games he has done shitty and has had his bullpen save his ass numerous times to get to 7-2...but my numbers have him as an average pitcher. i always thought he'd struggle in the AL, where you cant rely on a straight fastball all the time... i still think he is a good pitcher, but i like making money, so give me the "other guy". :103631605
 

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Sabermetric calculations


I was almost sorry i asked that question for the first few words!LOL thanks for breaking it down for me, you seem to me to be one of the more "technical" not sure if thats even the correct word, cappers on the board and i am kind of a system type guy so i enjoy your analytical approach to the game. thanks and gl as i may play along with these.
 

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say a faded pitcher is matched against a follow pitcher would you increase your unit size?
 

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Hope you do well, very interesting stuff in my opinion. I'll be watching this thread from now on. Best of luck.
 

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smartz said:
say a faded pitcher is matched against a follow pitcher would you increase your unit size?

Hell yeah! it would be a 2 unit play. :drink:
 

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bznofx19 said:
Hell yeah! it would be a 2 unit play. :drink:
heh i figured. Will be on the lookout for one of those 2 units then.
 

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Outstanding stuff bz...keep posting....I like the Detroit play also W/Sox have a losing record against lefties.

looking forward for your daily report.

i'm using it to compliment something I'm doing too.
 

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Tue 6/6:

Bos +139 (fade Wang)
KC +183 (Elarton)
Det +123 (fade Garicia)
Col -121 (Francis)

note: G.Floyd has been scratched from the rotation....he has been sent to the minor leagues after getting shelled in his last start that was FADED.
 

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5-5, -.67 so far for rotation #2

Wed 6/7:

TB +157 (McClung)
NYY +127 (fade Schilling)
Sea -148 (Moyer)

last day for rotation #2
 

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