Millenium and BetOnSports theft -- Facts from the player himself

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Here are the facts from the victim himself:

I have been betting in Mill for about 3 weeks now. I lost $23,000 there in that time, each time reloading with a 40-50% bonus incentives they used to draw me in and then back (shocking – they’re very good to me when I lose everything).

A couple of days ago I made my standard reload of $3,000 and got a 40% bonus of $1,200. I placed and won one wager (finally) bringing my account balance to just under $11,000. Millenium all of a sudden decides to close my account and send me back my deposit with a small percentage of my winnings – they just STOLE the rest – ABOUT $4,500 DOLLARS OF MY MONEY!!!!

I called Bill Dozer with my problem immediately. I specifically told him I would not agree to any situation in which Millenium kept for themselves any of my winnings, but they went ahead and did it anyway. I say how can a book get away with this???? They are literally stealing not only the bonus money but actual winnings from my wager.

As if that weren’t enough to deal with, the new merger between this book and BetonSports apparently makes this story even worse.

I had also opened up an account at BetonSports last week and literally made two wagers there. I deposited $6,000 there and was offered a $3,000 bonus. I bet that whole thing on 1 game and won it – bringing my balance to $21,000. I placed another wager for $10k a couple of days later, which I also won. When I signed up I specifically asked about wagering limits and they guaranteed me $10,000 on the internet and usually more by phone – that’s why I deposited so much. I placed and won only TWO wagers there. Well they decided to cut my limits to $1,000 a wager, effectively meaning that instead of the 10 or so bets I would need to complete my 12 time rollover I now need 90 bets!!!! And if I don’t accept their terms – they have threatened to confiscate the bonus and 33% of my winnings!!!!
I mean if that’s not stealing than what the hell is?

THIS BOOK IS A SCAM AND THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. THEY BASCIALLY DO THE FOLLOWING: OFFER AMAZING BONUSES WHICH THEY WILL NEVER HAVE TO PAY. THERE’S ONLY 2 OPTIONS:
IF YOU LOSEM THEY WIN
AND IF YOU WIN, THEY EITHER CONFISCATE YOUR MONEY AND SHUT YOU DOWN OR LOWER YOUR LIMITS TENFOLD SO IT WILL TAKE YOU MONTHS TO GET OUT!!

I was told that customer service manager Jamie was a “good” person and he said he works for the player, but I don’t see it here. I have dealt with him regarding my money at Millenum and BetonSports and Bill has spoken to him too and he does not care. I mean this is a publicly traded company for crying out loud How can they get away with this theft? Who would ever give these people any money - $100 or $1,000.

With this much money potentially stolen from me, all I can say is enough with these books. The risk isn’t worth it. Small or big players – just use an A rated book. I mean I hope that Bill is able to fix this situation, but as things stand this is the biggest rip-off I have ever seen.
 

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Just for the record I am in touch with Artie and doing what I can to get the matter rectified.



Thanks, wil..
 

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welcome to the RX artie, & thanks for sharing your story.......

lets see what happens, if you have WIL helping out on the case you are a lucky man....

Hopefully you will stick around for some sports gambling talk
 

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wil i hope you can help the guy out

if he has deposited that much money up front

surely any benefit of doubt must rest with the player

goodluck and sorry to hear this story
 

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i deposited AND LOST $23,000 at Betmill without any complaint (of course). They say depsoit more and make some back. WE'll give you a big bonus. So i do try to make some back and this happens. Unbelievable.

$6,000 at BOS

here are my mill deposits:
6/4/2006 18:06 Millennium $3,000.00 - USD Accepted
6/4/2006 12:29 Millennium $3,000.00 - USD Accepted
6/1/2006 17:39 Millennium $3,000.00 - USD Accepted
6/1/2006 11:13 Millennium $3,000.00 - USD Accepted
5/31/2006 18:27 Millennium $3,000.00 - USD Accepted
5/31/2006 9:22 Millennium $3,000.00 - USD Accepted
5/25/2006 11:43 Millennium $2,000.00 - USD Accepted
5/24/2006 18:58 Millennium $2,000.00 - USD Accepted
5/21/2006 15:41 Millennium $2,000.00 - USD Accepted
5/21/2006 12:01 Millennium $2,000.00 - USD Accepted

I started out depositing $2000. Then they told me that I would get a better bonus if I deposited $3000. They lured me in only to confiscate my money once I won.
 

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Just think about all the guys who don't know about these forums. Betmill and BoS is probably scaming thousands of people.

They intice you with a juicy bonus, then you happen to win, they cry foul. I will complete my wagering and get the hell out.

I think Artie will get his money after he complys with the rollover, but just think if he didnt know about SBR or other forums, surely they would have stiffed him.

Ane they are a platnium sponsor, HA.

BB
 

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i find it the limit cutting from 10 k to 1 k

when he gets some momentum going to be very disturbing almost criminal

but prepared to wait to see what wil comes back with before saying anything else
 

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Cutting limits happens at a lot of places...it is the books right.

But keeping winnings is criminal. Not very shocking from a book that kept $500,000 still to this day from another bettor that won.
 

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IMO, cutting limits aswell as withholding bonus SHOULD NOT be tolerated during the rollover period.....

Bookie should be able to do this afterwards if they please but with a formal letter or email.
 

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after the guy completes his rollover yes fine cut his limit

but dont break the contract you entered into

by accepting the deposit awarding the bonus

then changing the rules after a few bets

if you want to do that then decrease the rollover requirement accordingly

otherwise the chances of him every being able to make a withdrawal are next to zero

that i believe is false advertising - bait and switch

illegal

of course just my opinion - a very serious issue to me anyway
 

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SportSavant said:
IMO, cutting limits aswell as withholding bonus SHOULD NOT be tolerated during the rollover period.....

Bookie should be able to do this afterwards if they please but with a formal letter or email.

agree...you should not be able to change the bonus rules during the rollover process you agreed to.
 
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Just another BOS/BetMill satisfied customer. Platinum sponsor...
This is the new trend, pull the plug at any juncture, even after one win. They were afraid the guy was going to go on a run. Very strong post. This should be amusing.


Best wishes...OF :howdy:
 
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bigbet1234 said:
Just think about all the guys who don't know about these forums. Betmill and BoS is probably scaming thousands of people.

They intice you with a juicy bonus, then you happen to win, they cry foul. I will complete my wagering and get the hell out.

I think Artie will get his money after he complys with the rollover, but just think if he didnt know about SBR or other forums, surely they would have stiffed him.

Ane they are a platnium sponsor, HA.

BB

How do you feel strongly endorsing them yesterday?

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<HR style="COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Seems everyone is bashing them all the time. I took advantage of their 50% CASH bonus deal.

Ran up a hefty balance. And was paid my entire balance in 3 days. They offer 10K per day FREE Via neteller, which is GREAT.

Their customer service was always very helpful and polite of chat and on the phone. I found some nice vaule there at time, and while mostly betting the limit (5K online) never once had my limits cut or a line change.

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Best Wishes...OF :howdy:
 

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gbogo said:
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after the guy completes his rollover yes fine cut his limit

but dont break the contract you entered into

by accepting the deposit awarding the bonus

then changing the rules after a few bets

if you want to do that then decrease the rollover requirement accordingly

otherwise the chances of him every being able to make a withdrawal are next to zero

that i believe is false advertising - bait and switch

illegal

of course just my opinion - a very serious issue to me anyway

I agree with this...I wasn't speaking about bonus rollover requirements. I stay away from most bonuses. I was just speaking of a book's right to lower the limits on a sharp player. Otherwise they will go broke.

Bonuses are a different matter and I feel they have ruined the industry for bookmakers.
 
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SportSavant said:
okay mr nine.com I didnt know about nine...

Up yours Potsie. You never saw me posting glowing praise or even anything positive about 9.com. Who posted they were great after complaints here? You are a total idiot to drag another sponsor into this thread? Do they compensate you for stupity at the RX?


Best Wishes...OF :howdy:


Ironically NINE.Com plays the same scam, get you in on bonuses, cut you down, or force you to phones, so you can never complete rollover. Thanks for the segway, SS.
 

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Books should and do have leeway to control their risks on bonuses. They simply need to state ALL the rules and conditions. If they intend to profile a player and they want to reserve the right to confiscate the bonus and the winnings from the bonus then declare that up front. That's not asking too much.
 
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Clip Joint said:
I agree with this...I wasn't speaking about bonus rollover requirements. I stay away from most bonuses. I was just speaking of a book's right to lower the limits on a sharp player. Otherwise they will go broke.

Bonuses are a different matter and I feel they have ruined the industry for bookmakers.

You know I used to feel opposite about bonuses but lately I have soured on them. I think you are right Clip, exchanges and low juice should be good. It appears now they are more of an enticement or carrot on a stick than legit. And they will do anything to keep that carrot out of reach. I think I will abstain from the bonus game after this.

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Best Wishes...OF :toast:
 
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Artie said:
A couple of days ago I made my standard reload of $3,000 and got a 40% bonus of $1,200. I placed and won one wager (finally) bringing my account balance to just under $11,000. Millenium all of a sudden decides to close my account and send me back my deposit with a small percentage of my winnings – they just STOLE the rest – ABOUT $4,500 DOLLARS OF MY MONEY!!!!

I wonder how they calculated the $4500 figure. Since you didn't
complete the rollover, i assume they took back the 40% bonus,
i.e. $1200. They might also be thinking to take back any winnings
obtained through playing with the bonus amount. Further they
may have a rule, as some SB's do, that they can do whatever
the hell they want to as far as bonuses are concerned.
 

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