In the Future do not cry to the Watchdogs. You get what you deserve!

BOTTOM LINE GREED KILLS. IT BLINDS THE EYES AND SHUNTS THE EARS TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT IT WANTS TO HEAR AND SEE. SIMPLE.


Bonuses win and so the watchdogs lose. Its only June. What is just a trickle now will be a torrent soon and they cant stop it beacause they cant stop you from chasing BIG FAT BONUSES. Its one big game of RATS AND ROACHES. Dangle some cheese and the rats are there in a hurry eating it as fast as they can while roaches eat there crumbs just as quickly before all move on. PURELY PATHETIC. Your crys for help equals the ones who got trampled on in the stampede and need help getting to the next piece of cheese or more correctly get the back the cheese that was stolen by the rats in case they run out while on there search for more.



Now who put themselves in that position? YOU OR THE WATCHDOGS. You did of course.


They shouldn't hang banners of bad books and mislead us say the masses.
Fine if thats the way you see it then lets make a deal with them if you dare.



I propose that in exchange for not hanging banners of decided bad books
that all the watchdaogs and there associated mods in no way take on any cases that involve books that are not paid advertisers and in general good standing with the community.


You want to play victim? Fine play the victim. Go finds someone who cares and see how much of a victim you feel like then. Sending your money to and fro like a pro playing your JR WISE GUY GAMES. It is no longer there problem.


ITS TIME TO GROW UP BOYS AND GIRLS. MOMMY AND DADDY CAN NO LONGER HOLD YOUR HAND BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL GROWN UP. Time for you to learn to deal with consequences of your actions on your own.



You dont want to rally around them, you do not want to empower them, you do not want to demand the offshore expierence you want and worse still rally onto yourselves as an intitution to do the things it takes aka the HARD things to do to make it so. Fine you are on your own. Good Luck its a big world out there.


YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE DO NOT CRY TO THEM IN THE FUTURE UNLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO TOW THE LINE AND START DOING YOUR PART TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT.


Its just that simple JR WISE PEOPLE.

In a way I'm glad to see the level of outrage over the Artie case. It's good solidarity, even tho it may have gotten a bit out of hand.

But in the real world there's always compromise. Everything else being equal - and if I'd never heard of a book before but found their message enticing - I would be much more inclined to post up with them if they advertised at rx and similar established sites, than if they did not.

Not automatic, just more inclined to do so. As bettors we all know there ain't no sure things this side of paradise.

mmm

well in my early days in 2002 I signed up with Internet 1X2 largely because it was promoted on this site. As a rookie I knew no better.

Create better and clearer bonus rules and this can all be avoided.

When my grocery store tells me Coke is on sale for 1 buck a 12 pack I expect to be on sale when I drive my fat as down there.

Sugarbear said:

BOTTOM LINE GREED KILLS. IT BLINDS THE EYES AND SHUNTS THE EARS TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT IT WANTS TO HEAR AND SEE. SIMPLE.


Bonuses win and so the watchdogs lose. Its only June. What is just a trickle now will be a torrent soon and they cant stop it beacause they cant stop you from chasing BIG FAT BONUSES. Its one big game of RATS AND ROACHES. Dangle some cheese and the rats are there in a hurry eating it as fast as they can while roaches eat there crumbs just as quickly before all move on. PURELY PATHETIC. Your crys for help equals the ones who got trampled on in the stampede and need help getting to the next piece of cheese or more correctly get the back the cheese that was stolen by the rats in case they run out while on there search for more.



Now who put themselves in that position? YOU OR THE WATCHDOGS. You did of course.


They shouldn't hang banners of bad books and mislead us say the masses.
Fine if thats the way you see it then lets make a deal with them if you dare.



I propose that in exchange for not hanging banners of decided bad books
that all the watchdaogs and there associated mods in no way take on any cases that involve books that are not paid advertisers and in general good standing with the community.


You want to play victim? Fine play the victim. Go finds someone who cares and see how much of a victim you feel like then. Sending your money to and fro like a pro playing your JR WISE GUY GAMES. It is no longer there problem.


ITS TIME TO GROW UP BOYS AND GIRLS. MOMMY AND DADDY CAN NO LONGER HOLD YOUR HAND BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL GROWN UP. Time for you to learn to deal with consequences of your actions on your own.



You dont want to rally around them, you do not want to empower them, you do not want to demand the offshore expierence you want and worse still rally onto yourselves as an intitution to do the things it takes aka the HARD things to do to make it so. Fine you are on your own. Good Luck its a big world out there.


YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE DO NOT CRY TO THEM IN THE FUTURE UNLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO TOW THE LINE AND START DOING YOUR PART TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT.


Its just that simple JR WISE PEOPLE.

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Do I have everybodys attention now?


Bottom line you made choices to play at risky places. You can only hold yourselves accountable in the end. Do not cry because you know better.

All who post in these places in the summer know what they are doing. The newbie factor is non existent considering it would have been 10x worse if this happned in August. (WHEW)

You can not have it both ways anymore those days are gone. All will be a lot more careful in the future and there will be a lot less books than we have now by this time 2008. Market devaluation does that to weak insolvent places and creates pennies on the dollar bargins. You better be in the strongeat places imaginable soon because more is coming so as I have been saying...


IN THE FUTURE DO NOT CRY OFFSHORE BETTORS. YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE FOR PLAYING AT THESE SHADY PLACES AND A SOLID REPUTATION MEANS NOTHING. THE TIMES HAVE CHANGED.


LAST WARNING!

i understand you guys think of millenium as shady but i NEVER had a problem with them or bitched to the watchdogs about whats happened. whats done is done. it could of happened at anyones book it just happen to one im associated with but im glad for the continued updates and hope some miracle happens so i can at least tranact some kind of funds

Where do you play at Sugarbear?

ACE IN THE HOLE said:

Where do you play at Sugarbear?

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Cash and low pro means you are good to go. I live in Vegas and do not use offshore sportsbooks. I dont even have a local phone account. If I want to get down I go the hard way and I dont do the Jr Wise guy thing anymore either. Look at me as your regulatory,operational and management 101 minded brother from Las Vegas. Just your typical everyday mid level manager with no life type. The guy who does the work has to make things work. I have broad industry expierence.

OK give me that in English now...

Offshore sportsbooks are going to do whatever the fvck they want to do and thats it and nobody can say or do anything about it. Watchdogs take the ad money so of course they shut up. Arb panels are a joke ie robertos deal with that f1 dispute and olympic when spiro told them all to go fvck themselves and get the fvuck out. What happened they turn around with chin in throat lookin at floor feeling embarresd. Any major dispute goes book and money talks bottom line.

BoS all forums got on their knees and decided to keep banners up until the feds came in and did something. Still nobody that posted up with them can get there funds out yet watchodog insurance poilcies are to be "considered" if/when. Wellllll......how long has it been now????????? Give it a few, a few what? Wheres my withdrawal mf'r???

Then you have these books offereing fat ass bonueses to a bunch of forum scalpers and get pissed when that happens. Boys, play at top tier books and forget about it. Thats why this shit is hilarious cuz squares get taken up in it and then look what happens.

Use your own judgement and take these forums as entertainment and " for informational purposes only" and thats it. This is afterall a shitbag industry.

Enough attempts at moralizing, Sugarbear. You are far out of your depth here.

Back to work. And yes, I'll take Fries with my order.

Sugarbear - "I live in Vegas and do not use offshore sportsbooks. I dont even have a local phone account. If I want to get down I go the hard way and I dont do the Jr Wise guy thing anymore either."

Translation - I'm a 10 and 20 dollar bettor. I'm not capable of sportsbetting for a living - otherwise I would have accounts offshore, as well as using Vegas books.I don't have a clue. I don't have a phone account in Vegas for one of the same reasons I don't have offshore accounts - one has to deposit, and I live week to week.
My expertise is that I sit at a counter and punch up bet tickets.

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OK give me that in English now...

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This applies to 99% of Sugarbear's rambling semi-coherent posts.

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Sugarbear - "I live in Vegas and do not use offshore sportsbooks. I dont even have a local phone account. If I want to get down I go the hard way and I dont do the Jr Wise guy thing anymore either."

Translation - I'm a 10 and 20 dollar bettor. I'm not capable of sportsbetting for a living - otherwise I would have accounts offshore, as well as using Vegas books.I don't have a clue. I don't have a phone account in Vegas for one of the same reasons I don't have offshore accounts - one has to deposit, and I live week to week.
My expertise is that I sit at a counter and punch up bet tickets.

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My aren't we judmental and touchy as you go down in flames in your offshore expierences. I am glad you think you know me. Not everyone who participates in fourms is a degenrate sportsbettor or works in a book.

Only the younger ones think its a thrill to be treated like shit and taken for granted while losing there money and paying fees to on top of it just to make bets you cant win and feel like a JR Wise Guy.


As for the rest time will reveal exactly who is who.