dr03 said:
Wade and Kobe are similar but I think Wade's a winner and I'm not sold that Kobe knows how to win without Shaq. I've discussed this so many times and I do not want to get into it again.
No one is as good as Jordan. MJ dominated on both sides of the ball. Shaq used to dominate on both sides of the ball. As far as dominance, those two should be compared.
Dwyane Wade doesnt get any credit for defense. He's not a bad defender.
Also, you're comparing Jordan's legacy and Jordan in his prime vs. Wade in his 3rd YEAR! Wade hasnt hit his prime yet! His outside jumper gets better every year, his overall game improves, and hes working hard to get better.
In Jordans early years he didnt have a great outside jumper and he developed it over the years. IMO, Wade is on a similiar level to Jordan both in their 3rd years.
Also, you're comparing Jordan's legacy and Jordan in his prime vs. Wade in his 3rd YEAR! Wade hasnt hit his prime yet! His outside jumper gets better every year, his overall game improves, and hes working hard to get better.
In Jordans early years he didnt have a great outside jumper and he developed it over the years. IMO, Wade is on a similiar level to Jordan both in their 3rd years.
jakethompson said:
How can you talk about Wade being a winner and Kobe not. Wade is playing with Shaq and your talking about not being sold on Kobe as a winner without Shaq. Kobe won 3 Championships and Wade has 0 both players have a lot of years left so anything can happen but right now you have to give the edge to Kobe. Wade is a total super star but I'd rather have the ball in Kobe's hands when the game is on the line. Kobe is a little better shooter
Wade's batting 1.000 so far for important shots.
Once again, people forget that Dwyane Wade was still averaging 30+ per game without Shaq in the lineup when he had his ankle injury. People act like Shaq is making Wade. I just saw Dwyane Wade take on the entire Mavs defense and wiggle and weave through all of them.
Does Shaq help? Of course he does. But what can you possibly take away from Dwyane Wade at this point? He hasnt missed any important shots. He didnt miss any important free throws. He's put this team on his back. He's the absolute MVP of the NBA Finals right now. He's putting himself in elite company and breaking records with every game that passes. He's NOT in his prime yet.
You want to put LeBron with Shaq? What could LeBron do at this point that Wade hasnt?
Once again, people forget that Dwyane Wade was still averaging 30+ per game without Shaq in the lineup when he had his ankle injury. People act like Shaq is making Wade. I just saw Dwyane Wade take on the entire Mavs defense and wiggle and weave through all of them.
Does Shaq help? Of course he does. But what can you possibly take away from Dwyane Wade at this point? He hasnt missed any important shots. He didnt miss any important free throws. He's put this team on his back. He's the absolute MVP of the NBA Finals right now. He's putting himself in elite company and breaking records with every game that passes. He's NOT in his prime yet.
You want to put LeBron with Shaq? What could LeBron do at this point that Wade hasnt?
pokerpills said:
I sure am feeling old after reading about an "old skooler" seeing MJ playing back in the day.
I have to pick MJ over Wade, for MJ has already earned his place among the all-time greats. D Wade sure seems to be heading toward a great career, but all this comparing him to MJ is mere guessing and assuming his future greatness.
When D Wade and/or Lebron has a few championship rings, wins several MVP trophies, goes to a dozen consecutive all star games, etc, then compare to MJ.
D Wade is a definite baller and so is Lebron. But its a weak argument comparing either of them to MJ.
MJ Bulls teams had nothing close to the talent of this current Heat squad.
Great game tonight.....Im sure MJ had visions of his former greatness watching tonight D Wade taking over in the 4th and nailing that bank shot at end of regulation.
