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People in my neck of the woods keep waiting for them to fall apart. Just oesn''t seem like it's going to happen. They play alot of weak ass teams, that should help. They led the Cubs all weekend long. 8 hrs yesterday. Now if Jones wouldn't suck so bad we might have 5 more wins.
 

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They have a great manager, great catcher, and a great 1st base coach......they are for real.
 

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Hopefully Mags can stay healthy all year, and the young pitching doesn't wear down.
 

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Todd Jones could be their downfall... Cant wait to check them out early August over in Tampa ...
 

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The TIGERS team ERA is more than 0.50 better than any other pitching staff in the AMERICAN LEAGUE.


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Jones has only pitched poorly about four times, and at least two of them are when he was asked to go more than one inning. He is still an effective one inning guy.
 

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Fishhead said:
The TIGERS team ERA is more than 0.50 better than any other pitching staff in the AMERICAN LEAGUE.


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that right there sums it up. Espicailly in a year where scoring is up. Also pretty strong up the middle.
Pudge -c
polanco -2b (career .300 avg)
Guillen -ss ( he is very solid, lookat his numbers)
Granderson-Cf (one of the leadoff OBA in the game, surprising but true and he is under 25)
 

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Granderson is also probably the best defensive center fielder in baseball now surpassing the likes of Jones, Hunter and Edmonds. Sure can't hurt the pitching staff having a guy like that patroling a huge outfield like theirs.
 

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Some guy named Leyland and some catcher named Pudge led an under-the-radar team to the World Series title not so long ago. Could history repeat itself?
 

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Granderson is also probably the best defensive center fielder in baseball now surpassing the likes of Jones, Hunter and Edmonds. quote]

a lot of people would greatly disagree with that. however, he will be one of the best in 2 years. i follow the tigers religously and I have found that their biggest problem is that their hitting gets shut down by top pitchers (i.e. Schilling, Contreras, Kazmir, Santana, Mussina, big unit). When they play a good pitcher, they should change their names to the Detroit Windmills. Obviously their biggest strength is their pitching but they also have solid 7-9 hitters. Inge (15 HR), Shelton (14HR), Monroe (10 HR). I would take these guys over any other team's 7-9 hitters.
 

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Granderson is also probably the best defensive center fielder in baseball now surpassing the likes of Jones, Hunter and Edmonds. quote]

a lot of people would greatly disagree with that. however, he will be one of the best in 2 years. i follow the tigers religously and I have found that their biggest problem is that their hitting gets shut down by top pitchers (i.e. Schilling, Contreras, Kazmir, Santana, Mussina, big unit). When they play a good pitcher, they should change their names to the Detroit Windmills. Obviously their biggest strength is their pitching but they also have solid 7-9 hitters. Inge (15 HR), Shelton (14HR), Monroe (10 HR). I would take these guys over any other team's 7-9 hitters.
agree with alot of what you said. Still think Inge is a huge hole that wouldn't play on a playoff team (defense is well below average. Don't listen to the hometown announcers they nake hi out as Mike Schmidt) but you can't argue his power numbers. Don't forget to add Marcus Thames into the bottom of the lineup mix. Greta power numbers from a 5 a player
 

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Tigers need to be able to play in the small ballparks on the road, or rather continue to play well there.

Leyland needs to manage Verlander carefully.

Also, and I'm in the minority here, but leave Jones as the closer. No better situation for him to pitch in than to start an inning with nobody on. I'd much rathr have Zumaya come in with guys on base, a much more difficult senario. The whole idea of a closer is silly anyway.

Bonderman, Rogers, and Verlander would be a great 1-2-3 in the playoffs, especially if Verlander doesn't fall off the table. He needs to strikeout a few more guys though, because the playoff caliber hitters will rough him up if he allows contact at his present rate.

Go tigers!
 

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Iceman said:
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agree with alot of what you said. Still think Inge is a huge hole that wouldn't play on a playoff team (defense is well below average. Don't listen to the hometown announcers they nake hi out as Mike Schmidt) but you can't argue his power numbers. Don't forget to add Marcus Thames into the bottom of the lineup mix. Greta power numbers from a 5 a player

i disagree about inge's defense. he has played very solid this year defensively.
Inge- .953 F%, 11 Err, 13 DPs, 60 PO
A-Rod- .943%, 11 Err, 13 DP, 41 PO
Considering he never played at 3rd before he got to the majors, it is pretty impressive. He is very athletic and has a cannon for an arm. He has improved greatly from last year.

I didnt include Thames because he is in the top 5 now. That dude beats the sh*t out of the ball. Too bad Tram didnt have him up last year.
 

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Budworth22 said:
Also, and I'm in the minority here, but leave Jones as the closer. No better situation for him to pitch in than to start an inning with nobody on.​

bud, you are in the minority for a reason. hitters are killing this guy. he will be nicknamed "the heartattack" if he is the closer in september.
Dombrowski is the freakin best GM in baseball, and I am sure he has plans to bring in another arm- assuming he wants to keep Zumaya in the set-up roll.
 

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bud, you are in the minority for a reason. hitters are killing this guy. he will be nicknamed "the heartattack" if he is the closer in september.
Dombrowski is the freakin best GM in baseball, and I am sure he has plans to bring in another arm- assuming he wants to keep Zumaya in the set-up roll.

Nut,
my advice was for the current situation, in response to the Zumaya-jones swap that many proposed. Jones is obviously hiding an injury, or is done. Either way, he shouldn't be pitching innings with guys on base. They will need another arm.
 

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Budworth22 said:
Either way, he shouldn't be pitching innings with guys on base. They will need another arm.

agreed.
this team is one 'healthy Percival' away from being really scary.
 
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Jim Leyland is for real. He doesn't miss a thing. His brain focuses on just baseball, nothing else. This team does not have a dominant player or personality, so Leyland is a perfect fit. How many other managers run the clubhouse? He always has been one of the best managers around at putting his players in the best position for them to succeed, and that includes his roles for relief pitchers and the right spots to use his bench players. Pitching will be all right thanks to Verlander(what a surprise).

2 things are missing from a division title:
The offense lacks left-handed power
Super Closer

When its all said and done, the White Sox just have the swagger and talent.
 

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Nut Wheel said:
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i disagree about inge's defense. he has played very solid this year defensively.
Inge- .953 F%, 11 Err, 13 DPs, 60 PO
A-Rod- .943%, 11 Err, 13 DP, 41 PO
Considering he never played at 3rd before he got to the majors, it is pretty impressive. He is very athletic and has a cannon for an arm. He has improved greatly from last year.

I didnt include Thames because he is in the top 5 now. That dude beats the sh*t out of the ball. Too bad Tram didnt have him up last year.
don't agree at all. Sure if you want to compare to someone you can twist it anyway you want.
He is not an everday player(INGE). He is hitting .220 and strikeouts way way too much. Combined with the fact he is on pace for close to 30 errors, which is horrendous and he played all last season there. He does not make enough plays over there.

I don't miss a Tiger game if I can help it and he is a terribile defensive player who 3 times a week makes you shake your head in disgust. There is a love fest on the radio and TV over him because he has come a long way from a few years ago but he is the team weakness by far. 20 better 3rd baseman in baseball easily
 

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