If you use Pinnacle, why do you need other book?

DDz00 · Jun 23, 2006

I am still new i think at sports betting.

However, I have many books and know.. and we all know..

Pinny got the best juice .. BEST.

(but I just can't beat Pinny but other book, Irony)

Here is my real question.

Many ppl here told me that I need to use many books (3~5 books)
but if we use Pinny, do we really need more books?

Don't know about 5dime, greek, mansion yet so I do not know the juice of them.

Pinny got many prop, many lines .. now one free withdraw / calendar year.

I hate pinny even if they have nice juice, because I just can't win there.

Teach me plz.

Santo · Jun 23, 2006

Pinny can have an 8c line: +112/-120,

5Dimes on the same game could have a 20c line, +115/-135

+115 is better than +112, so you bet at 5Dimes, even though their juice is higher.

That's why you need more than Pinny.

cincy_ · Jun 23, 2006

Santo said:
Pinny can have an 8c line: +112/-120,

5Dimes on the same game could have a 20c line, +115/-135

+115 is better than +112, so you bet at 5Dimes, even though their juice is higher.

That's why you need more than Pinny.

Exactly. Low juice doesn't mean YOUR team has the best line at Pinny.

Fishhead · Jun 23, 2006

Overall, without question one of the greatest sportsbooks in existance.

However, there are many places that will give you better lines on certain games.

Very hard for one place to give you the best line at all times.

Actually, for strictly straight wagers and wagers less than $2,000, Matchbook will beat Pinny on the majority of games for the best line.

oldmanTED · Jun 23, 2006

Often times Pinnacle is hanging juice at -111 and above with the same spread while shops like TheGreek, CRIS and WSEX are still hanging -110 on the same number. It is a common misconception that Pinnacle always has the lowest juice on every event.

ElJefe · Jun 23, 2006

Pinny seems to have the best line on a game most of the time and they absolutely dominate the volume of action in the industry. It must have gotten very tough for other books to compete with them. But you still need other outs - plenty of times here and there where Pinny jacks up their line to -115 or whatever making the need to bet elsewhere.

Sugarbear · Jun 23, 2006

oldmanTED said:
Often times Pinnacle is hanging juice at -111 and above with the same spread while shops like TheGreek, CRIS and WSEX are still hanging -110 on the same number. It is a common misconception that Pinnacle always has the lowest juice on every event.

Yes, yes it is OMT. The myth has grown bigger than the reality.

DDz00 · Jun 23, 2006

:thumbsup2:
Thank you

DonMelchor · Jun 23, 2006

how do you know they have the best line if you don't have any other ACCs???

Doug · Jun 23, 2006

DDz00 said:
I am still new i think at sports betting.

However, I have many books and know.. and we all know..

Pinny got the best juice .. BEST.

(but I just can't beat Pinny but other book, Irony)

Here is my real question.

Many ppl here told me that I need to use many books (3~5 books)
but if we use Pinny, do we really need more books?

Don't know about 5dime, greek, mansion yet so I do not know the juice of them.

I assume you bet mainly baseball now

Pinny is one free wd a month

A good start would be Pinny, Mansion, and Matchbook. Both exchanges have all wd free. factor in the 2% of winnings matchbook takes to compare lines,no charge at Mansion when accepting an offer.

Mansion will have the best line more often than the other two.

blueedwards · Jun 23, 2006

try having only pinnacle during football...you will go busto very quickly

DDz00 · Jun 23, 2006

octor43 said:
how do you know they have the best line if you don't have any other ACCs???

Didn't I say that I am still new at the beginning?

Thank you

maxdemo · Jun 23, 2006

5Dimes has more prop bets than Pinny...and thats why I use them more than Pinny

Insiders · Jun 23, 2006

Hard for Anyone to play there ALL the time, as the juice is beatable and i know the numbers are Always beatable, but they do pay fast.
Anyone that thinks that Pinny is the only shop you will ever use, is either very very new, or working for them.

CRIS for Football openers is a MUST.

Locals certainly have their place, even being at -10 they are sometimes very slow to move and sometimes they move the "other" way, according to "their" action.
Offshore numbers are merely painted after the BIG stores take the first wave of action anyway!

red007 · Jun 23, 2006

pinnacle wont take parlays in tennis
gutless
unlike 5dimes

Woody0 · Jun 23, 2006

oldmanTED said:
It is a common misconception that Pinnacle always has the lowest juice on every event.

That's because the lowest spread has become enshrined as the lowest juice. If Pinny does not have the best number on team A then their lowest spread gives them the best number on team B leading to the famous Pinny lean people talk about, and why taking their best number makes it difficult to win at this book.

Dante · Jun 23, 2006

I do not really need another but I like skybook for free half points during foots

KennyB · Jun 23, 2006

Pinny is great for straight bets but their parlay rules suck and their teaser payouts for football suck.

A great book to have but you need other outs.

bulldog77 · Jun 23, 2006

Also, it seems some books are coming out earlier than Pinnacle with their baseball lines. Betjamaica has been putting their lines up two hours consistently before Pinnacle the last few weeks at least. By the time Pinny even posts a line the value is gone many times lately.

catsfan · Jun 23, 2006

I think you need another book other than Pinny in case you are not able to access a computer. Pinny is one of the few books that you can't call in wagers (and still get the reduced juice).