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CIA has access to your bank records
By Philip Johnston, Home Affairs Editor
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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>The bank transaction records of millions of people in Britain and around the world may have been disclosed illegally to US intelligence agencies as part of the Bush administration's counter-terrorism programme, privacy campaigners said yesterday.
CIA agents and US treasury officials have been secretly monitoring financial transactions routed through Swift, the Brussels-based, industry-owned co-operative that links 7,800 financial institutions in more than 200 countries.
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</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD class=caption><CENTER>Swift links financial institutions worldwide

</CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Swift, an acronym for the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication, provides electronic instructions for transfers between virtually every bank, brokerage house, and stock exchange and routes 11 million transactions each day.
<!--MPU STOPPED BY MEDIA -->The Terrorist Finance Tracking Program was disclosed by the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times, which said they had been pressed by the administration not to divulge its existence.
American officials denied that it amounted to an invasion of privacy and said it was vital to anti-terrorism operations. It means Washington may have access not only to financial data on its own citizens but everyone else's too.
An agreement with Swift to hand over the transaction records was reached after September 11 but has never been divulged until now.
John Snow, the US treasury secretary, said disclosure of the information was subject to ''very significant safeguards'' and had proved useful to the anti-terror operations, though there were no specific examples of how it had helped.
In a statement, Swift said it had negotiated with the US treasury "over the scope and oversight of the subpoenas". Under the deal, counter-terrorism analysts can ask Swift to look for information on activities by suspected terrorists as part of specific terrorism investigations.
Swift said the agreement concerned ''limited sets of data from the office of foreign assets control of the department of the treasury''. It added: ''Our fundamental principle has been to preserve the confidentiality of our users' data while complying with the lawful obligations in countries where we operate."
Privacy International, a campaign group, filed simultaneous complaints with data protection and privacy regulators, including Britain's, in an attempt to uncover the scale of the exercise. Simon Davies, the group's director, said: ''We know very little, but it seems that the data are being sent regardless of people's nationality. If blanket authorisations are being given for millions of records, it would be impossible to separate them out.''
He said the activity was undertaken without regard to legal process under data protection law, and that the disclosures were made without any legal basis or authority whatever.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/06/28/ncia28.xml

About SWIFT

SWIFT is the financial industry-owned co-operative supplying secure, standardised messaging services and interface software to 7,800 financial institutions in more than 200 countries. SWIFT's worldwide community includes banks, broker/dealers and investment managers, as well as their market infrastructures in payments, securities, treasury and trade

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Western Union has been passing along informaton too - heard it on NPR today.
 

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cincy_ said:
Western Union has been passing along informaton too - heard it on NPR today.

I expected that...since they deal in alot of cash transactions. But SWIFT is the big boy that handles all the transaction...hence the name SWIFTPAY
 

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cincy_ said:
Western Union has been passing along informaton too - heard it on NPR today.
yep that is a given...and probably has for a long long time
 

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Dante said:
yep that is a given...and probably has for a long long time

They're not only passing the records, Dante - WU sends the CIA/FBI a message as soon as money is sent and tell them where it was sent - real-time information - so when a person picks up the money, not only do they know who it is, they have a picture of him and they follow him.
 

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The phone companies recently with Att in the lead changed there privacy policy to a degree that gives you no rights to object or cry foul if you records are turned over.
 

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Counter-terror, does anybody really buy this crap? What is worse - somebody flying a plane into a building and killing a few thousand or the government using that as an excuse to tighten their grip? Give me liberty or give me death
 
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Face it, since Sept 11th-the feds have access to EVERYTHING. They may not admit it, but they do.
 

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hopefully the Europeans can do something about it as I do not find it amusing that my bank transations show up in the States, its just a matter of time before some minimum wage idiot puts me in a 'no fly' list for no good reason other than I 'look suspicious to him..........what did you say .....Costo Rico???? ah yes , thats in California correct'
 

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TTinCO said:
Face it, since Sept 11th-the feds have access to EVERYTHING. They may not admit it, but they do.
They likely have mega info-overload...doubt they could surveil even a fraction of those they wanted to.......even with computers, it's just a few of them and billions of us........
 

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charleslanger said:
They likely have mega info-overload...doubt they could surveil even a fraction of those they wanted to.......even with computers, it's just a few of them and billions of us........
Is that supposed to make me feel better?
 

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If Western Union really could identify anyone who picked up big cash, then it wouldn't have been the method of choice for the folks who were extorting money from sportsbooks the past few years (the Denial of Service extortion schemes)
 

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cincy_ said:
They're not only passing the records, Dante - WU sends the CIA/FBI a message as soon as money is sent and tell them where it was sent - real-time information - so when a person picks up the money, not only do they know who it is, they have a picture of him and they follow him.

I once got a WU money order, in the mail, but there were several payment outlets. Guess they had a photographer waiting for me at all of them?
 

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